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Old 10-18-2007, 10:01 AM
crystalallen crystalallen is offline
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Default Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

How would you steal a pot - with position - if you're 99% sure villain has pocket kings and there's an ace on the flop?

I'll post the hand if I have to, but it's really embarassing.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

Call flop, raise turn
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

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Call flop, raise turn

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That sounds good.

I just came back to post the hand.

I'll live with the shame.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($2.82)
BB ($7.06)
UTG ($24.34)
Hero ($4.80)
CO ($2.96)
Button ($6.28)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
UTG calls $0.10, [color=Red]Hero raises to $0.45</font>, [color=Gray]4 folds</font>, [color=Red]UTG raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.05.

Flop: ($3.15) 4[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], 9[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]UTG bets $0.95</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to $2</font>, UTG calls $1.05.

Turn: ($7.15) 2[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7.15) Q[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]UTG bets $1.3</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $8.45

Results in white below: [color=White]
UTG doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG wins $8.45. </font>
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

If you want him to fold this you have to bet the turn after hes shown weakness.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

Raise flop bigger and fire the turn imo!
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

Yea, the simple thing to do would be to play it more aggressive.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

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How would you steal a pot - with position - if you're 99% sure villain has pocket kings and there's an ace on the flop?

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By not min raising is a good start. He's never folding the flop min raise, ever.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

Bad idea in the micros
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

I think the standard line for KK is to check the flop and hope you check behind.

The KK will prob bet turn and prob CC river.

If you want to push him off, I think it will take three bullets.

Betting/raising flop, following up on the turn/river.

If you had a set, I doubt you are min raising and then checking the turn.

Looks like a much less than half-hearted effort.

Coach me please if you can put him exactly on one hand.

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Old 10-18-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Stealing the pot if it\'s Ace high and you\'re sure villain has KK.

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Coach me please if you can put him exactly on one hand.


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1. The pre-flop re-raise
2. The size of the bet on the flop
3. The amount of time it took to bet on the flop
4. The check to me on the turn.

I was very short stacked and I realize now that if I was going to raise on the flop I should have just raised all-in. But at that time I just had a suspician. I was sure on the turn when villain checked to me.

I like call flop, raise (or bet) turn. But others would work, I just needed to be more aggressive.
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