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Old 08-21-2007, 08:46 PM
Allinlife Allinlife is offline
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Default Everybody should give away their organs upon death

unless they otherwise agree that they don't want any organs to be donated to them incase of an accident.

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Old 08-21-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

Governments should not prohibit markets for human organs. Problem solved.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

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Doesn't the supply bottleneck open up a bunch of ethical problems here?

Example, an alcoholic goes to the doctor and is told he has moderate/severe liver cirrhosis and must never drink again. This man is a billionaire and would never give up his habit so he simply purchases a replacement liver. A middle class child dies of hepatic failure because his family cannot afford the market price for a liver.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:03 PM
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Governments should not prohibit markets for human organs. Problem solved.

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Doesn't the supply bottleneck open up a bunch of ethical problems here?

Example, an alcoholic goes to the doctor and is told he has moderate/severe liver cirrhosis and must never drink again. This man is a billionaire and would never give up his habit so he simply purchases a replacement liver. A middle class child dies of hepatic failure because his family cannot afford the market price for a liver.

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There is no supply bottleneck, except the one created by government (that's what you get when you outlaw a market). And yes, it creates terrible "ethical problems".
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

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There is no supply bottleneck, except the one created by government

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This intrigues me, there are more people dying and willing to donate organs than there are people needing organs? No sarcasm intended I honestly didn't know this was the case.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

He means that there are many alkies who now donate plasma for money but would also be willing to donate a kidney for a few months supply of booze. Or that a dead person's family who otherwise would not donate their relative's organs for general humanistic charitable purposes, might be so willing for money.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

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There is no supply bottleneck, except the one created by government

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This intrigues me, there are more people dying and willing to donate organs than there are people needing organs? No sarcasm intended I honestly didn't know this was the case.

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For quite a few things you don't have to die to donate. Kidneys, bone marrow, and livers can be donated by living donors.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:55 PM
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There is no supply bottleneck, except the one created by government

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This intrigues me, there are more people dying and willing to donate organs than there are people needing organs? No sarcasm intended I honestly didn't know this was the case.

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Not quite. There are more people dying who would have been willing to sell the rights to their organs in the event of their deaths had they been allowed to. Whether this exceeds the number of people who actually need organs in the same time period is irrelevent. I suppose you could call it a "supply bottleneck", but it certainly the case that it is a much smaller bottleneck than the one created by government by simply outlawing the market.

I have posted a thread on this subject in the past:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:02 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Everybody should give away their organs upon death

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There is no supply bottleneck, except the one created by government

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This intrigues me, there are more people dying and willing to donate organs than there are people needing organs? No sarcasm intended I honestly didn't know this was the case.

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Clearly more people die every day than there are people who need organs. Thus the problem is motivating people to put themselves in the donor queue *and* creating the infratsructure to deliver the organs. The last two issues are what depresses supply relative to demand. By enabling a market, you bring supply and demand closer to equilibrium, which will result a cost reduction.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:56 PM
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Governments should not prohibit markets for human organs. Problem solved.

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How did this thread not end after the first post? Anyone and everyone should be able to sell the rights to their organs after they die. Most will quite easily take a couple of hundred dollars now for something that will never affect them. Cue a huge, plentiful supply of cheap organs for all.
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