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Old 08-31-2007, 07:24 PM
bknollenberg bknollenberg is offline
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Default NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $25.00
BB: $45.25
Hero (UTG): $71.20
MP: $22.40
CO: $12.15
BTN: $22.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1.80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.20</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $44.40</font>, Hero???

the guy was kind of a nit. plays lots of hands pf, but is usually very solid when pushes.

thoughts? easy fold?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I fold if he's a nit, 200BB is too deep to call.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I don't think its as easy just to say he is a nit. I mean look at that board what could he have here to cold call on the BB? J10, QJ maybe Q10 or KQ could even be 108s. I dont think he is gonna push with trips here its not really a draw heavy board. I think i would maybe call here, he is using the deep stacked situation to his advantage and trying to push you off your hand by making you call for over half you chips. Also he must know by leading out you are def going to be raising him on a nice flop texture like that so a push with a draw has good fold equity in his eyes. I think call, am i wrong?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I think sets are heavy in this range, as well as if hes loose preflop he could have Q9 just as likely as Q10. 77 would prob be my biggest worry, it depends heavily on image as well. If he knows you will call with an overpair for 200bb he may push trips
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

really easy fold.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I thought about the sets, but decided if anything he had super garbage like Q7. Q7 is actually the most probable I think, in which case I has many backdoor outs to the nuts. [censored] it, I am going all in.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Q7 does not seem like its in his range
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

[ QUOTE ]
I thought about the sets, but decided if anything he had super garbage like Q7. Q7 is actually the most probable I think, in which case I has many backdoor outs to the nuts. [censored] it, I am going all in.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ummmm, you do know how incredibly bad this is, right?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,930 games 0.005 secs 1,386,000 games/sec

Board: 9d 7h Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.455% 25.45% 00.00% 1764 0.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 74.545% 74.55% 00.00% 5166 0.00 { Q7o }
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:08 AM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

This is a really easy fold. When a nit tells you he has you, believe him.

Sure, sometimes... sometimes he's saying he has AQ and he's just saying "eff it, I'm all in" because he's a nit that sucks. And sometimes it's JT or T8... but it just isn't often enough one of those hands. We're better than a flip, sure, in those cases, but we're not even dominating. Then there's the case when he has a set... then we're dominated.

The board is dry as hell, there's not enough draws to put in his range to make this a call. To believe a nit bet/pushes air or a draw 200BB deep is... is spew.

Now, I'm tempted to believe he's not quite a nit from OP's description "calls a lot".. maybe more laggy that's been missing flops.

I'm going to go stove this... back in a couple if I come up with anything interesting.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

im not a fan of going all in w/ one pair for 200BB..
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