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Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
25/50 stacks about 17.5
Villain is a very tough shorthanded player on party, TeeElJay. I am pretty aggro tonite as usual but not crazy. My range on the flop is pretty wide when I cr all the weak money in the pot. Whats the plan on the flop vs the 3bet? I will post my action and the turn card later. I will also take debates on the flop cr but I think its pretty standard. arty Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero ($17620.50) Button ($19195) SB ($8636) Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $25. <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $175</font>, SB (poster) calls $150, Hero calls $125. Flop: ($525) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $400</font>, SB calls $400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2900</font>, SB folds -Mike |
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
I dont think the flop cr is odd, I too would have a wide range here, but I would rarely check raise to 1200 here...pot 1.7 with your call, then you raise 800? If I'm pulling the trigger it's 1.8k min.
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
I think this deep a flop CR isn't great, even though you often pick up decent amount of dead money. Agree with AZK that it should be bigger, too. This is a pretty ugly spot, I think call and CR a blank is good.
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
sick.
c/r definitely has to be bigger. i have no clue what to do here. i don't think a fold is bad, though. |
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ONE TIME BABY!!!
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
I'm pretty sure if we make a 4th bet he will fold almost all wores hands (speciifcally baby flushes and sometimes sets depending on odds you give him) so I don't like that.
Folding here is tough but if he doesn't 3bet light in this situation it's perfectly ok as you can likely be drwaing to 1 out. Calling seems ok too but being OOP really bites here since the texture of the turn really affects how the hand will play out. I think if I called flop I would lead a lot of non-threatening turns rather than go for a check-raise because he will likely check behind K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on turn and sometimes sets as he will read you as v strong. I will probably just c-f if turn is another [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or it pairs board. |
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
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T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ONE TIME BABY!!! [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
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I dont think the flop cr is odd, I too would have a wide range here, but I would rarely check raise to 1200 here...pot 1.7 with your call, then you raise 800? If I'm pulling the trigger it's 1.8k min. [/ QUOTE ] i agree with AZK here, also, i fold the flop to the 3 bet. Your hand screams flush or at least a set, and this guy doesnt seem to care. Youve also desribed him as a tag, so i dont think hes getting too tricky here, we're too deep too call, and we're often drawing dead. |
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Re: Tough spot deep vs. v. tough tag
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[ QUOTE ] I dont think the flop cr is odd, I too would have a wide range here, but I would rarely check raise to 1200 here...pot 1.7 with your call, then you raise 800? If I'm pulling the trigger it's 1.8k min. [/ QUOTE ] i agree with AZK here, also, i fold the flop to the 3 bet. Your hand screams flush or at least a set, and this guy doesnt seem to care. Youve also desribed him as a tag, so i dont think hes getting too tricky here, we're too deep too call, and we're often drawing dead. [/ QUOTE ] He 3 bets here and he automatically has a higher flush? I think most of the time we have him actually. Remember that the hero is aggressive, and the villain player could be doing this with a set, top 2, or TP and the nut draw. I agree though that 1.2 is way too little. |
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