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Can someone explain?
I have these situations that happen to me constantly to take me out of tournaments. For the life of me I do not know how to deal with players who will call any PF raise with any two cards and then PUSH on a flop they are only 38%.
It happens to me so often I am getting paranoid that either I don't play these situations right or the whole damn thing really is rigged. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) TightPoker converter UTG+1 (t1850) MP1 (t3745) MP2 (t4380) Hero (t4110) CO (t8416) Button (t5075) SB (t5611) BB (t3248) UTG (t4075) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t650</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t625, BB calls t600, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t600. Flop: (t2650) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t4961 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls t3460 (All-In). Turn: (t11071) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> River: (t11071) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t11071 Results hidden below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has 4c 3c (straight, seven high). Hero has Ks Ah (high card, ace). Outcome: SB wins t11071. </font> Hope some of the more experienced here will respond; and don't just tell me about bad beats. I am consistantly being bad beat by bad players. |
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Re: Can someone explain?
here's the explaination...
the dude put you AK, AQ, AJ, etc... after the flop, he was hoping to bluff you off your hand by "representing" trips, the nuts flush draw, or TPTK or even JJ, QQ, etc... he wasn't hoping for a call, much less to win the hand after you did. |
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Re: Can someone explain?
most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys.
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Re: Can someone explain?
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most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] $55 |
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Re: Can someone explain?
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most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. |
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Re: Can someone explain?
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[ QUOTE ] most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. [/ QUOTE ] perfectly good play by villan seems a bit too positive...also saying it may send the OP over the edge...villan played the hand pretty wild but I agree hero played it worst... |
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Re: Can someone explain?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. [/ QUOTE ] perfectly good play by villan seems a bit too positive...also saying it may send the OP over the edge...villan played the hand pretty wild but I agree hero played it worst... [/ QUOTE ] Well, all we have to go by is what the HH tells us. We have no insight into villains play. I do know that this is a pretty standard play against an opponent that I have a good read on so I'm giving villain the benefit of the doubt. Against an A high it's a good play, especially with a passive MP and BB and I agree with the other posters who wrote that he certainly didn't expect to be called. |
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Re: Can someone explain?
I simply donīt understand YOUR play here.
1) Why do you make it 650 preflop? This is much too high ... 2) SB pushes into three opponents. The board is rather dry (besides the two hearts). What the hell was your motivation to call him with just A high (and a backdoor flushdraw)?! You must have had special reads to do this ... |
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Re: Can someone explain?
Idk how you call that flop shove ever, you were okay this time but I have no idea how this call can be profitable long time.
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Re: Can someone explain?
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I simply donīt understand YOUR play here. 1) Why do you make it 650 preflop? This is much too high ... 2) SB pushes into three opponents. The board is rather dry (besides the two hearts). What the hell was your motivation to call him with just A high (and a backdoor flushdraw)?! You must have had special reads to do this ... [/ QUOTE ] I did, he pushed with nothing twice before against different opponents, loses one, then cracks AA on the other to regain chips. So yes, I had a read and was fairly sure I was ahead. |
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