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Old 03-30-2006, 06:52 PM
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Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($42.95)
UTG+1 ($9.85)
Hero ($23.60)
MP2 ($4.60)
CO ($33.70)
Button ($27.55)
SB ($22.05)
BB ($22.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 raises to $0.5</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $1</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 raises to $5.5</font>, Hero folds, CO folds, BB calls $4.50, UTG folds.

Flop: ($14.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 bets $4.35</font>, BB calls $4.35.

Turn: ($22.80) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

River: ($22.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $22.80

I have seen this player minraise alot from all positions
with small drawing hands and suited connectors, so I figured
she had a medium hand at the most, I reraised her, to my suprice she popped me right back with a huge bet, my thinking here is that she wouldn't have done this with a drawing hand, I feelt she had Kings or Aces, and I was right, she had kings, question is, did I do the right thing? can it be +EV to call here with QQ in the long run?
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

very bad.

your pf minraise is BAAAD. Make a real raise.

Another 4.5 dollars should be a call pf. If he pushes, that should be cause for thought.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

what are you talking about? she was the one doing a minraise, I reraised to a full raise, 4 times the BB
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

if someone minraises in front of you, raise it up more than 4Xbb.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

how much do you suggest I'd reraise?
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:14 PM
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no there was a limp and a min raise. you need to make it at least 2.5 to 3 to go in this spot. your raise wasnt a technical min raise but it was close enough. raising 4xBB is when you open the pot. if pot has been limped go 4xBB + 1 for each limper and if you raise a raise make it high enough to make it hard for him to call. lewts do some math here.

.10
.25
.25
.50
now you make it 1$ to go
villain has to call .50 into a 2.10 pot so you are giving him 4.2:1 to call...... you figure out if your raise was good or not
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:15 PM
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I like raising to 2.5 here pf after the minraise.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

ok,useful info, but that doesnt ansvers my question about the +EV
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: tell me how bad this is

In my first post, I said that I'd call the 4.5

However, I just realized that the guy raising to 5.5 is a short stack. I might just put him in there and hope that the BB tags along with a worse hand.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:29 PM
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no calling doesnt have any +EV here. you have the third best starting hand possible. we do not put nearly enough pressure on an ak preflop and you most likely have the bet hand. if we make a normal raise we give ourselves a chance to fold and be correct more times then not. if we just call the min raise we will have no idea where we are at on the flop because villains hand range is extremely large at this point

calling at these limits esp with big pairs for the most part will have -EV
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