Hourly rates...

[Mr_J]

I know this is a bit silly, but I wouldn't mind hearing hourly rates from players with decent samples. I just like to know what is possible. I'm a bit more interested in the PLO8 hourly rates since that's what I'll probally end up playing, seeing as how I likely suck at limit. Also throw in limits and # of tables if you feel like it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Mendacious]

What a set-up for a Fatballz $500 an hour brag thread.

For some realism, I'm a 12bb/100 player on the $1bb ($100 buy-in) tables. I play 3-4 tables at a time, and make 5.6bb per hour. I believe that is essentially between $33-$44 an hour.

I find that virtually every site has enough action at this level to find quality games at this leve. I think at the $200 level you lose the quantity of selection a bit and the play is somewhat tougher, above this level, $400-$2000 you are pretty much limited to Party and Stars, and there are no guarantees that you can multi-table on good tables. Notwithstanding the great success of Wintermute/Fatballz, I think your options in PL08 are pretty limited above the $200 level because of the size of the player pool. Above the $200 level I think you need to be flat out a very very good player if you want to sustain any winning, and if you are that good, there are other games with much greater availability. Just my .02

[Mr_J]

I don't expect to get above 200PL, and expect that if I do get to 200PL, I'll probally have 100PL and 50PL games running as well.

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and if you are that good, there are other games with much greater availability.

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Wondering if you mean PLO8 games or other poker games.

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What a set-up for a Fatballz $500 an hour brag thread.

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Why even work 2hrs a day...

[Mendacious]

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I don't expect to get above 200PL, and expect that if I do get to 200PL, I'll probally have 100PL and 50PL games running as well.


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It sounds like you plan on playing mostly the same levels I do-- which is good because I think this affords you the best selection over a wide spectrum of sites, which also permits you bonus whore a bit (which for me is worth another $600+ a month, over various sites). Playing these levels-- with bonus and 3-4 tabling, I suppose it is possible to get up to $50 an hour, but I really think you should temper your expectations a little to more like $35-$40 because it isn't always possible to have 3-4 good tables going, and personally, I think much more than 5 hours of multi-tabling a day starts to degrade your performance, and makes you a player that is so well known in this size player pool that it becomes harder to generate the same win rate.

[Dismas]

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What a set-up for a Fatballz $500 an hour brag thread.

For some realism, I'm a 12bb/100 player on the $1bb ($100 buy-in) tables. I play 3-4 tables at a time, and make 5.6bb per hour. I believe that is essentially between $33-$44 an hour.

I find that virtually every site has enough action at this level to find quality games at this leve. I think at the $200 level you lose the quantity of selection a bit and the play is somewhat tougher, above this level, $400-$2000 you are pretty much limited to Party and Stars, and there are no guarantees that you can multi-table on good tables. Notwithstanding the great success of Wintermute/Fatballz, I think your options in PL08 are pretty limited above the $200 level because of the size of the player pool. Above the $200 level I think you need to be flat out a very very good player if you want to sustain any winning, and if you are that good, there are other games with much greater availability. Just my .02

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nh

[steamboatin]

Do hourly rates written in red ink count?

[Jorge10]

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What a set-up for a Fatballz $500 an hour brag thread.

For some realism, I'm a 12bb/100 player on the $1bb ($100 buy-in) tables. I play 3-4 tables at a time, and make 5.6bb per hour. I believe that is essentially between $33-$44 an hour.

I find that virtually every site has enough action at this level to find quality games at this leve. I think at the $200 level you lose the quantity of selection a bit and the play is somewhat tougher, above this level, $400-$2000 you are pretty much limited to Party and Stars, and there are no guarantees that you can multi-table on good tables. Notwithstanding the great success of Wintermute/Fatballz, I think your options in PL08 are pretty limited above the $200 level because of the size of the player pool. Above the $200 level I think you need to be flat out a very very good player if you want to sustain any winning, and if you are that good, there are other games with much greater availability. Just my .02

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Interesting post, and I agree with this completely.

I dont do any table selection at all. I will just play any 4 tables of 200 PLO8 if I can find them, which I usually cant, or combine 200 and 100 as its usually the case. I find that a bad PLO8 is boring and very unprofitable, its mostly a struggle to take stabs at pots no one wants because people are just too tight when the games are bad. Getting 10bb/100 on a bad game is obviously impossible, I think a limit player would have a bigger win rate than someone who plays at bad tables, its that slow. Also PLO8 has a huge jump from 400 to 2k because currently in party there is literally nothing in between. The 600 and 1000 tables rarely get going if ever. So you must jump from 400 to 2k buy in tables. I think if you want to win small and just build a roll, PLO8 is fine, but if you want something more its going to be very difficult, unless you want to specialize in short handed play.

[Mr_J]

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I think if you want to win small and just build a roll, PLO8 is fine,

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12+ tabling sngs or LHE is the way to go if you want a solid hourly rate without playing high stakes. LO8 isn't quite as good simply because you can't multitable as heavily, but can do so more than PLO8.

Puts me in a tough spot. I'm in this purely to make money. I don't like playing sngs and won't play more than 2-3 hours a day. PLO8 just doesn't have enough tables running for me to take advantage of my multitabling skills. LHE has way too much variance. I suck at LO8. I guess that leaves getting better at LO8 or 10 tabling 100NLHE.

[MarkD]

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I guess that leaves getting better at LO8 or 10 tabling 100NLHE.

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Do both. I play limit holdem to make my money. I play 5/10 6-max LO8 to learn the game / have fun. I don't play LO8 often, but enough to have some fun and hopefully I don't suck as bad as my initial results say that I do.

There is definitely room to do both. If you want to play 6 hours a day then play 5 hours of HE and 1 of LO8. You will get better at LO8 and will still make money. Eventually you should get good enough at LO8 to make that your primary game.

[wiseheart]

Average $10/hour 4 tabling $3 turbo SnGs along
with the occasional $5/$6 game. Ive also been
running well in the 1/2 limit, but that isn't
a very large sample size.