Live with Gynecologist(sp?)

tonysoldier · #1 01-09-2007, 04:19 PM

Bellagio, 100/200, 6 or 7 players. Well dressed middle aged man looking for a bigger game but only finding this has sat down on my left one round ago. I can definately say that he plays loose and unconventional but he hasn't done anything post flop that I can definitively say is stupid. For the most part, the game itself has been vegas passive, with the exception of this new guy, who might convince me to stay in the game (I was thinking about picking up just before he sat down).

I'm on the small blind, villain's on the big blind. It folds around to us and I look at KK and raise, Gyn 3bets, I four, he fives, I six, he sevens, I call.

Thoughts? Too many, too few?

Flop comes rags. I check, he checks.

Turn comes rag. I check (?), he checks ...

River comes Q. I bet (?), he calls.

Okay, lots of questions here, like how is my play on every street, and what should I be thinking/putting him on on the various streets. What does he have?

I'll post my thoughts and the results later.

Fianchetto · #2 01-09-2007, 04:29 PM

He has AK.

Preflop is about right against an unknown, I may have put in one more raise before slowing, obviously with more of a read you could keep going here.

If he does have AA, or any big pair, no way he checks that flop. So he probably has ace high, and you should bet turn and river assuming no ace comes.

tonysoldier · #3 01-09-2007, 06:38 PM

Yeah, it just seems like you're strongly assuming that he's a poor, unsophisticated/unthinking player, no?

surfdoc · #4 01-09-2007, 06:04 PM

How did you know he was a gyn? Did he bring a speculum to the table?

tonysoldier · #5 01-09-2007, 06:43 PM

I was telling the hand to someone else and he said that the guy I was playing against had delievered like every Las Vegas child in the past 20 years. He's also played some poker on TV, HSP, Dr. Amir Nasseri, I think his name is, not sure. I did not know this at the time of the hand in question.

Smarty · #6 01-09-2007, 09:32 PM

I would say you need to bet the turn after he checks the flop...though it would be absolutely brilliant of him to check AA on the flop if he knew this would happen to get him 3BB instead of 2.5BB from a lower high PP. Might have been better to ask about turn action before showing his action after you.

tonysoldier · #7 01-10-2007, 04:28 PM

Yeah, obv. the only real question in the hand aside from preflop is whether he's trying to get the extra half-bet. It just seemed so fishy cause even if he does have AK he should bet the flop and check behind the turn if he wants to get to sd cheap. I thought it was quite likely he was after the extra 1/2bb because of how clear the situation: AA vs. KK calldown all the way, was.

siegfriedandroy · #8 01-11-2007, 12:20 AM

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I would say you need to bet the turn after he checks the flop...though it would be absolutely brilliant of him to check AA on the flop if he knew this would happen to get him 3BB instead of 2.5BB from a lower high PP. Might have been better to ask about turn action before showing his action after you.

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Does anyone else agree that it would be a brilliant play for villain to check behind the flop w/ AA?

DcifrThs · #9 01-11-2007, 07:39 AM

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I would say you need to bet the turn after he checks the flop...though it would be absolutely brilliant of him to check AA on the flop if he knew this would happen to get him 3BB instead of 2.5BB from a lower high PP. Might have been better to ask about turn action before showing his action after you.

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Does anyone else agree that it would be a brilliant play for villain to check behind the flop w/ AA?

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villian is OOP. i dont think it's that brilliant for villian to check flop OOP after 7 betting pf, you will almost certainly get called down (95%.. 5% for when hero folds heroicly on the river or has AK and is nutty pf or just slips and somehow his cards get misclicked intot he muck) for 2.5 bets vs. "weird play" action like checking behind twice w/ KK going for the extra .5 bets but costing yoruself 1.5 or so often enough to make it costly.

so no i dont think it's that brilliant....unless you're levelling me where which WOULD be brilliant!

Barron

tonysoldier · #10 01-11-2007, 02:08 PM

Everyone's saying it would be brilliant for him to check behind on the flop with AA. When I was playing the hand, I felt like it was smart but also kind of an obvious thing to do. The fact that everyone on here is like, he checked the flop he has ak, duh, confirms how easy it should be for him to get an extra 1/2 bet. So, I just didn't want to play into it. I mean, when you get 7-bet by a relative unknown, AA has to be a strong favorite for his holding, and the simple fact of him checking the flop behind doesn't necessarily change that.

I should have changed a few things to make this a better post. I could have pretended that I was the big blind and made it 7 bets with AA and then checked the flop behind but got screwed when opponent checked the turn. Or I could have said that the hand was against a strong thinking player or something (this is how I preliminarily read him -- strong player playing small, f'ing around).