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Old 08-15-2006, 12:41 PM
Luckyz Luckyz is offline
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Default QQ, c/f flop?

villian 25/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($31.90)
SB ($18.75)
Hero ($35.70)
UTG ($17.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.25</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.75
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Old 08-15-2006, 12:48 PM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

yea, i check/fold that flop as well...limp reraise is AA most of the time.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

What? this can't be TT, JJ, or AK?

I don't think I can find a flop fold here. I'm torn between a reraising and floating and seeing what he does on a non- A,K,J,T turn.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

25/2 over how many hands? If it's &gt;100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

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25/2 over how many hands? If it's &gt;100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.

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Folding PF to the LRR is bad, hero has odds to draw to a set.

I definitely dump the flop though.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

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25/2 over how many hands? If it's &gt;100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.

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Folding PF to the LRR is bad, hero has odds to draw to a set.

I definitely dump the flop though.

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So this is an implied odds arguement? The odds of a set are about 7-1 on the flop, which we're not getting from the pot, but you think it's worth it because you can probably stack the opponent if you hit?
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:35 PM
crookdimwit crookdimwit is offline
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

Tough fold to make, but probably right. He might have JJ or AK here, but AA or KK or QQ is more likely. Either way, seems like at best you're 50/50 here. If you call and the turn comes anything but a Q, what then?

In retrospect, you might have bet out on the flop, rather than checking to the button. If he raised your bet, you could more comfortably muck and feel sure you were behind...
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

Folding preflop is ridiculous. Call preflop with any pp against a nit like this because you will stack him a bunch of the time when you hit your set like mosuavea already pointed out.

I think the flop isnt a clear cut fold. 2% pfr includes a lot of hands that we're beating. I think his flop aggro here and cbetting % are important factors to consider.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

definately cannot see myself laying that down.. Id probably give it a cold call
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: QQ, c/f flop?

Is this the first time you've seen him LRR?
How many hands do you have on him?
Whats your PFR% likely to look like to him?
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