$5 How did I play these pocket Q's ?

Joerii · #1 12-26-2006, 07:49 AM

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1455
UTG+1: t2100
MP1: t1110
CO: t1765
Button: t3545
Hero: t1095
BB: t2430

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls t50 (pot was t75), CO calls t50 (pot was t125), Button folds, Hero raises to t200, BB folds, MP1 raises to t350, CO calls t300 (pot was t650), Hero calls t150 (pot was t950).

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1100, 3 players)

What information can you guys extract from this hand ? What does a re-raise mean ? Does it mean " Get out now ? "

terrible · #2 12-26-2006, 08:11 AM

with your stack i would shove pf over the limpers, shove over mp1's rr and shove the flop. i'm not sure if the first one is correct though.

edit: the rr does look very strong but readless at a $5 surely you can't let this one go.

Joerii · #3 12-26-2006, 08:22 AM

You would have shoved over the limpers ? Surely they'd all fold, except for AA and KK ? Where's the EV in that ?

marsus · #4 12-26-2006, 09:37 AM

I would shove after MP1 reraise. As played I would shove the flop.

Sparta45 · #5 12-26-2006, 10:03 AM

After MP1's re-raise, you probably should have shoved preflop. You're a little too short stacked to get away from queens here....especially in a $5 where their are a lot of donkey's.

terrible · #6 12-26-2006, 10:41 AM

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You would have shoved over the limpers ? Surely they'd all fold, except for AA and KK ? Where's the EV in that ?

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i say this purely because of the buy-in level. you're getting called by a comical range of hands here in my experience, and my thinking was that if the blinds were 50/100 you'd be shoving this and with two limpers already in the pot it's basically equivalent. also again at this level in my experience you're likely to be called by both limpers and any A or K flop is going to put you off when you pretty much need to be committing here.

feel free to flame me if my thinking is way off here. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Joerii · #7 12-26-2006, 11:02 AM

Ha flaming is not my style. I just think that a lot of players here underestimate the $5 players on stars. Or overestimate me, maybe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

kyro · #8 12-26-2006, 11:05 AM

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You would have shoved over the limpers ? Surely they'd all fold, except for AA and KK ? Where's the EV in that ?

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lol

You mean besides the free chips at almost 0 risk?

200 is too small of a raise. I'd make it 300ish. But pushing at the $5s certainly isn't bad.

Joerii · #9 12-26-2006, 11:10 AM

Kyro, I mean : shoving ( he means all-in by that, right ? ) only gives me 125 if everyone folds. Seems like a waste of perfectly good pair of bitches.

But you think i'll get called more often then not with a hand with any two pictures in it ? That reduces my hand to a coinflip, wich i'd rather not take at this blindlevel....

kyro · #10 12-26-2006, 11:18 AM

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Kyro, I mean : shoving ( he means all-in by that, right ? ) only gives me 125 if everyone folds. Seems like a waste of perfectly good pair of bitches.

But you think i'll get called more often then not with a hand with any two pictures in it ? That reduces my hand to a coinflip, wich i'd rather not take at this blindlevel....

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Are you serious? I'm not positive what the calling ranges are here, but whatever they are, it ain't a coinflip.

Still, I've already said I prefer raising less than all-in but more than 200.