10/20nl good bluff or death sentence?

holla-at-yoboy · #1 07-10-2006, 10:34 PM

Villain has been raising his button almost every round so I call with a marginal holding in the sb. The only other time this situation occurred was when he raised from button like usual and I called with KQo in sb. Flop was KJ2 and I lead for 120. This was shown down and we split.

I have a semi-lag image which I think he's picked up on.

I figure people will either like or hate this play.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($5109.50)
Hero ($2008)
BB ($686)
UTG ($2030)
MP ($8286.40)
CO ($4064)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $80, Hero calls $70, 1 fold.

Flop: ($180) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $120, Button calls $120.

Turn: ($420) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($420) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $280, Hero raises to $920

GTL · #2 07-10-2006, 10:42 PM

It certainly looks like he has a pair of queens here. Now the question is whether or not he will lay it down. Its hard to evaluate this line with so little information, but a check raise on the river is better than a lead imo.

holla-at-yoboy · #3 07-10-2006, 10:45 PM

For the record I def think he'll lay down a queen. Prob something stronger as well.

MDMA · #4 07-10-2006, 11:00 PM

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For the record I def think he'll lay down a queen.

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What else are you afraid of calling? If you think he's "definately" folding a queen here (as in near 100%), then this move is clearly good.

That aside, yes, this line is generally good when people check behind on turn, looks like a whiffed c/r on turn that (correctly) checked river again. So yes, it's nice, don't overdo it tho.

mused · #5 07-10-2006, 11:23 PM

seems wreckless. villain has to lay down pair of Queens only if he thinks you have J10. You would NEVER play a set, two pair, or anything else that beats a pair of queens like this.

GTL · #6 07-11-2006, 12:00 AM

i would sometimes play a set like this. If you would play J10 like this why wouldn't you play a set like this sometimes?

Moonshine · #7 07-11-2006, 03:54 AM

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seems wreckless. villain has to lay down pair of Queens only if he thinks you have J10. You would NEVER play a set, two pair, or anything else that beats a pair of queens like this.

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um, you would if you were good at poker...

just a thought

berserk · #8 07-11-2006, 10:39 AM

Your line is weird, and it may make villain curious enough to look you up with a queen, or worse. Bet flop, check turn, and c/r river raises some eyebrows.

samoleus · #9 07-11-2006, 12:33 PM

holla, assuming your opponent is the right type (can fold a queen here, will play a missed draw similarly, etc), I think this was a very very good spot for your bluff. I like it a lot.

gman06 · #10 07-12-2006, 09:54 AM

This bluff is a solid play against a good player. A great one is easily capable of calling you thin with one pair and a bad 1 will be happy he has a pair and will be confused by all of your betting, checking, and raising and look you up here.