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Is Chess solvable?
There are a finite amount of moves so my initial reaction was yes, but I don’t know enough about the game to know how much uncertainty over your opponents’ future moves affects things. So is Chess (theoretically at least) solvable?
[Not sure if this is the right forum. Feel free to move it.] |
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
yes
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
[ QUOTE ]
There are a finite amount of moves so my initial reaction was yes, but I don’t know enough about the game to know how much uncertainty over your opponents’ future moves affects things. So is Chess (theoretically at least) solvable? [Not sure if this is the right forum. Feel free to move it.] [/ QUOTE ] A solution (and a proof that it is a solution) might collapse under its own weight into a black hole. Seriously. |
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
Chess is a completely deterministic game, so in principle it is solvable. How could it not be? In practice, the number of legal positions is around 10 to the power of 42. To put that in perspective, assuming the universe is 15 billion years old, if 2 million billion billion positions were looked at by a computer every second since the beginning of the universe, it still wouldn't be done looking.
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
If the PC doesnt analyze clearly lost situation it can be done, btw this is just instinct
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
eh... I think I can answer this. There is really no need to solve chess. Anyone who has alot of knowledge and experience in the game will tell you: the result of perfect play is a draw:
check out the draw Percentages at this years Corus: Group A (best players in the world): 61 % of games drawn Group B (strong GM's): 40% games drawn Group C (GM's IM's): 30 % games drawn at the bottom of this page it shows the stats http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3638 |
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
I agree that chess played perfectly is almost certainly a draw. That doesn't tell us how to draw versus any given opening line, though, which is the point of solving the game.
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
Computing power advances at an amazing rate. Chess is not that complicated. I think it wont be so long before it can be solved. A couple centuries maybe. Have in mind we didn't even get to the point where we can solve a game as simple as checkers.
Now talk about solving Go, there you have a challenge. |
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
I personally would not be THAT amazed to see chess solved in my lifetime, though I am not holding my breath.
The database holding all the solved positions is of course huge and will keep getting huger. The database necessary to make a meaningful contribution is not so huge -- a 7-piece ending either leads to a draw or to one of seven families of 6-piece endings - so all you need access to to solve that position are those seven families of 6-piece endings. |
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Re: Is Chess solvable?
From a game-theory approach, "solving chess" can only mean finding a specific series of moves which enable each side to claim at least a draw.
In other words, every move by either W or B should, first and foremost, not provide the other side with an advantage (or, in the case of a move by B, with an increase in advantage), no matter what the other side plays. Mickey Brausch |
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