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[Guruman]

i used to be ok at this game.

apparently i suck these days.

crash and burno busto busto. 2k roll down to $623 and playing a very strict movedown br system (IOW always playing the highest stakes I can afford and moving up and down accordingly). I always reinvest rakeback into my roll. This is the second time a cliff dive like this has foccurred. The first time my roll dropped from 2kish to around $600. I took a week off, thought about the game, read some, and then dove back in. rebuilt to a little more than 2kish and dipped the toe into the 5/T game. Then crasho busto sucko again. My style hasn't changed. I think tilt accounts for less of these results than leakiness does. I play recreationally and I don't know that I have the stomach to rebuild at limit holdem again.

Things I think I know:

I play an aggressive style pf.
I only ever play two tables at a time.
I tend to start tables if there are no 60% vpip ones available. (there usually aren't)
I don't watch tv or porn or anything else while playing.
I screw up the turn alot
I play the river better then my opposition for the most part.
I play an aggressive br plan (bankroll always = 250bb)
The games have gotten much much worse lately.
Rake at 1/2 is killer.
Tight aggressive loses in loose aggressive games.
Tight aggressive wins in loose passive games.
There aren't many loose passive games online at Stars or WPEX these days.
I play better HU than 6 handed.
I probably play better full ringed than 6 handed.
I don't like playing NL.
I could consider a pot limit or split pot type game.
The nearest live 10/20 game is still heavily raked and is about 90 minutes away.
My wife would kill me if I left every weekend to play poker.
I like poker. Alot.
I have no confidence right now.

alright. done. thx. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Guruman]

also, for ref. I dropped 125 bets in 575 hands today. My stats:

vpip: 30.9
pfr: 21.9
total af: 2.51
went to sd: 42
won at sd: 38

sample size 575 hands. suck it up right? yeah, but this has been going on for months now and it's blackening my soul. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[milesdyson]

If you're 2-tabling ~60% VPIP games and losing, I don't know what to say.

Also, rake will crush you playing heads up at low limit (if not at WPEX).

Also, this is subjective as hell: "Tight aggressive loses in loose aggressive games." It's true if you're too tight. But my definition of "loose" is "plays too many hands." So they are in -EV spots, and thus you can take their money.

[Guruman]

i pretty much only play super short handed at wpex. I don't play 1 on 1 tables at stars and when i start tables they fill up quickly.

[Leader]

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i pretty much only play super short handed at wpex.

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This is your problem. There are two strategies I see commonly employed to make money in online poker:

A. Play in tough games for rakeback and bonus.

B. Play in soft games and beat up on bad players.

Regardless of which of these you think is more profitable, I suggest you go with B. IMO it takes an almost super human ability to play in games in which you are, without incentives, a losing player and continue to want to play the game and improve. I've seen a lot of good players break themselves trying to make plan A work. I sure it's worked out for some people especially those who are either very good or very lucky, but in my experience plan B is a much better long term strategy.

[Guruman]

thx for the advice all. ironically, I made the OP, then went to pick up a friend and head out to afore mentioned indian casino 1.5 hrs away. I won more live than I have sitting in my entire online roll even after the crushing rake, repeated tips, food and folding the best hand in biggish pots twice - which probably proves Leader's point as much as anything.

I think I'm still going to take a break from online limit holdem for a while until I can get some perspective back. The stars 1/2 game was still orders of magnitude tougher than the live Indian casino 6/12 game. A player there also hipped me to a couple of live underground limit games that happen to occur in my own fair berg, so we'll see about those as well.

So this statement from me:
no online holdem for 20 days. afterwards I'll play some, work on other methods of game selection, and post hands again.

[milesdyson]

125 bets in 575 hands is sick. You are probably going to showdown too much. You are probably trying way too hard to be a cool LAGTAG.

[johnnyrocket]

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125 bets in 575 hands is sick. You are probably going to showdown too much. You are probably trying way too hard to be a cool LAGTAG. [/quote

starting to dip into 5/10 with only 10 buyins when u arent confident in ur game is not smart at all, i have over 100 buy ins and still play 3/6 and 5/10 limit cuz i crush them and also once i hit 10/20 and 15/30 it gets much harder to 8 table since the games are tougher

I would play lower limits and gain confidence, dabble in the next stake once u have 20 B's minimum

[Guruman]

wtsd over my last 32k hands is 35.7 avg number of players is probly around 4.5ish

[Guruman]

dude I can't beat 1/2 right now. I only played 57 hands at 5/T before running -18bb/100 and getting chased right out.