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Old 11-14-2007, 01:17 PM
Igloo9 Igloo9 is offline
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Default set mining or 3 betting pp?

How often are you three betting pp vs just calling for set value? assume villains are decent regs. I know you may mix it up, but what do you do the majority of the time. last one should read raise, not 3 bet.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

I would 3-bet only the first one, assuming his attempt to steal is high enough and I haven't 3 bet like crazy recently
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

2 limpers, you have 44 on btn.

3bet?? Was there already a raise? I'm confused.

I'd 3bet/call/fold 55 in BB, depending on table flow, image, etc..
Call 99 on btn 100%
Raise 4 on btn after limpers
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

oh wait I voted call on situation 3, but I didn't realize it was limped to me. I raise actually, and those two villains are probably not decent regs anyway
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

sry, I accidently put 3 bet instead of raise
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

1st one should be 3bet all day
people who say call are wrong. Not much value in set mining against decent reg raising in CO because his range is huge you wont hit your set and have him have a stackable hand enough
whereas if you 3bet you can pick up the pot often right there and if he calls you have much better chances of winning his stack if you hit a set because him raising a cbet commits him assuming you re playing 100BB stacks
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

Im surprised about answers to questions 1 and 3. seems like many pro aggros raise those...
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

Only right answer imo: It depends.

EDIT: Though I'd always raise #3.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

lobster you just hit poobah by the way. Fitting answer for 1600th post!
anyway I 3bet with 55 all day. I think by calling against his range ur just leaving money on the table.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: set mining or 3 betting pp?

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lobster you just hit poobah by the way. Fitting answer for 1600th post!
anyway I 3bet with 55 all day. I think by calling against his range ur just leaving money on the table.

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what money? hes never calling with worse and by bloating the pot OOP you just end up with worse Pot/stack ratios and that places less importance on your supposedly superior postflop skills. If villain calls 3bets light but folds every flop, or folds all but like 1% of his opening range 3 betting is profitable of course. But its likely that calling and c/r'ing any flop is profitable.

i call all 3 btw
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