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Old 07-30-2007, 09:26 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $114: KK flops an ace

Pretty sure villain sucks...

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t75/t150
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2590
Hero: t1615
Button: t3285
SB: t2340
BB: t3670

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t375</font>, Button calls t375 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t600)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t975, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t450</font>, Hero?
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:32 AM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

pre-flop raise should be at least 500...
now as played fold..
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

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pre-flop raise should be at least 500...

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Thanks.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:51 AM
alwardc4 alwardc4 is offline
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

Ugh, I would usually just push pf (you are right around 10 bbs). As played, I think a check-fold is ok. He can't really be betting a draw, so I guess on that board he has an A too often to continue.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:23 PM
KoreanBuffet KoreanBuffet is offline
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

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pre-flop raise should be at least 500...
now as played fold..

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If you are going to raise away 1/3 of ur stack you may as well shove. Which I think I would do with like 11 BB's but I don't know if ppl at 114's call with any two broad way or Ax
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:35 PM
Ditch Digger Ditch Digger is offline
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

Shoving preflop loses a ton of value.

If he has a low aggro factor I'd probably just fold. The board has no draws so unless he's on a pure bluff we are way behind. Vs more aggro opponents I think you need to c/c down.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

Shoving preflop is ok against strong thinking players. Doing it against a bad loose opponent is criminal.

Ryan
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:48 AM
TheSug TheSug is offline
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

I hate this spot. Push PF avoids this situation but obv you get less value if no action

As played, I think you need to fold. At lower levels sucky villains often have A/3+ and never let it go. I don't play at this level so my advice goes under the assumption that sucky villain suckiness is static across all buy-ins.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

Disclaimer: I've only played as high as the $22s ...

I'm either pushing pre flop or raising the 375 that you did if your intention is to get the chips in the middle on a non-ace flop ... If villian sucks the same as the levels I've played, and calls with nearly any ace as the previous poster stated, the 375 raise gives you SOME room to fold if an ace falls on the flop (although I'm not folding there 100% of the time - it'll depend on the read on the villian) ... I think raising to 500, as stated earlier, leaves you too short ... I'd leans towards just pushing pre flop, though ...
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: $114: KK flops an ace

Preflop is incredibly standard.
As played call flop.
Check turn.
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