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Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
www.clububt.com offers online tournamant blackjack and poker (only tournaments). Prizes are cash and prizes. Money isn't wagered...rather, it's collected as a monthly membership fee. They claim to be legal in 38 states, plus D.C. They withhold taxes on WINNINGS.
Is this a model for our future play? From their site: Club UBT is the future of online play. It is an exciting new way to play poker tournaments and Elimination Blackjack tournaments online without risking a penny! It's fun, it's legal, it's EASY. Members pay a low monthly fee of $19.95 (or less!) and are awarded many perks and benefits: Entry into over 1,000 cash-and-prize tourneys Subscription to All In magazine Subscription to the Las Vegas Advisor Monthly newsletter Tips from pros like Phil Hellmuth, Johnny Chan, Annie Duke, etc. $1,000s in Las Vegas coupons Live chat support -------------------------------------------------- Eligible States: Alaska Arizona California Colorado Connecticut D.C. Delaware Florida Hawaii Illinois Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Massachusetts Mississippi Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Oklahoma Ohio Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming |
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
Similar B&M concept for poker.
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage. This model fits the 'skill' games model. I notice they are even in the United States! obg |
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
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This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage. This model fits the 'skill' games model. I notice they are even in the United States! obg [/ QUOTE ] True, they can offer a game online. Unfortunately, they don't permit actual betting. Rather, they charge a monthly fee, from which the prizes come. I don't imagine any of us can make a living from any of the "legal" games the way they're structured today. After all, the fish at today's games lose more than $19.95/mo. It appears we need legislation to get what we want...games where real money moves around. |
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
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[ QUOTE ] This is what for poker I have been advocating all along, use the UIGEA to our advantage. This model fits the 'skill' games model. I notice they are even in the United States! obg [/ QUOTE ] True, they can offer a game online. Unfortunately, they don't permit actual betting. Rather, they charge a monthly fee, from which the prizes come. I don't imagine any of us can make a living from any of the "legal" games the way they're structured today. After all, the fish at today's games lose more than $19.95/mo. It appears we need legislation to get what we want...games where real money moves around. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but if it catches on, it will make the online poker experience more familiar to more people. Sooner or they will want to cross over to "real poker", which will keep the aquarium stocked and increase our position politically -- I hope. |
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Yes, but if it catches on, it will make the online poker experience more familiar to more people. Sooner or they will want to cross over to "real poker", which will keep the aquarium stocked and increase our position politically -- I hope. [/ QUOTE ] True. Anything to prime the pump is goodness. Hopefully we can use the fact that this much is perfectly legal to get a bill like Wexler's through. |
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
If this is the best we can get, maybe we can join the $500 a month package and play for trips around the world and Austin Martins...or whatever (like the joyous opportunity to flog the Senator of your choice)
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
um...no minnesota?
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
This does not escape the UIGE. Their tournaments have no greater element of skill than any other poker tournament.
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Re: Club UBT offering \"skill-based\" online poker and blackjack
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This does not escape the UIGE. Their tournaments have no greater element of skill than any other poker tournament. [/ QUOTE ] It does not have to if the UIGEA does not apply to AOL Games, MSN Games and such via www.worldinner.com a U S Based company. Poker only needs to be consider equal in 'skill' as say Solitaire, Free Cell, Hearts, Spades and such that are 'skill' games and not subject to the UIGEA. By the way, world winner is 53% owned by Liberty Media. Both are U S companies and Liberty is in the process of buying the remaining 47% of Fun Technologies, the parent company of World Winner. obg |
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