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Old 09-09-2007, 08:25 AM
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live game 9 handed
3 limpers to me in the CO and i raise A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] because i can, an expert 3bets out of the BB, limpers call, i call.

lots to the flop of T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
expert bets, 2 folds, call, i call.

3 to the turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] expert bets, call, my play?
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:42 AM
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I don't get pre-flop. If you're gonna raise because you can, how do you not 4 bet? You could've, right? Whatever reasons you had to raise 3 limpers the first time, only intensify when it comes back around to you for 3-bets. Only if the limpers are tight enough to fold marginal draws if the BB leads into you on the flop. But they don't seem that type if they called two cold ahead of you pre-flop.

As played, I think you can go either way. I doubt BB has an ace, but if he does, you're beat. If one of the limpers has a ten, so what? If they've got a flush draw, great, but that's two less of your suit to beat a better hand.

The more I think about it, calling seems best.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:40 PM
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I don't get pre-flop. If you're gonna raise because you can, how do you not 4 bet? You could've, right? Whatever reasons you had to raise 3 limpers the first time, only intensify when it comes back around to you for 3-bets.

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the limpers are drooling idiots, the BB is an expert. i had the best hand. BB just told me i no longer do. 4betting would be retarded.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:23 PM
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really? drooling idiots are never limping in with better aces?
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:25 PM
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really? drooling idiots are never limping in with better aces?

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no.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:41 PM
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really? drooling idiots are never limping in with better aces?

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no.

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wow i really think you're wrong here.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:27 PM
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I don't get pre-flop. If you're gonna raise because you can, how do you not 4 bet? You could've, right? Whatever reasons you had to raise 3 limpers the first time, only intensify when it comes back around to you for 3-bets.

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the limpers are drooling idiots, the BB is an expert. i had the best hand. BB just told me i no longer do. 4betting would be retarded.

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I respectfully think you should re-look at this. I'm not saying 4-betting is mandatory, but it certainly should be considered. That the BB is the only other player in the hand who ISN'T a drooling idiot is all the more reason to re-raise. He's the one you want to throw off. The others coming along for the ride just add to your share of equity, which isn't huge w/A2s, but isn't miniscule either.

I also think raising 3 limpers (even idiots) pf with A2, bedcause it's probably the best hand at the moment is a bit dubious. Your raising more for your implied odds than anything else with A2s. I actually like a 4-bet (after your 1st raise), more than an initial raise. -IMHO
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:29 PM
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I don't get pre-flop. If you're gonna raise because you can, how do you not 4 bet? You could've, right? Whatever reasons you had to raise 3 limpers the first time, only intensify when it comes back around to you for 3-bets.

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the limpers are drooling idiots, the BB is an expert. i had the best hand. BB just told me i no longer do. 4betting would be retarded.

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I respectfully think you should re-look at this. I'm not saying 4-betting is mandatory, but it certainly should be considered. That the BB is the only other player in the hand who ISN'T a drooling idiot is all the more reason to re-raise. He's the one you want to throw off. The others coming along for the ride just add to your share of equity, which isn't huge w/A2s, but isn't miniscule either.

I also think raising 3 limpers (even idiots) pf with A2, bedcause it's probably the best hand at the moment is a bit dubious. Your raising more for your implied odds than anything else with A2s. I actually like a 4-bet (after your 1st raise), more than an initial raise. -IMHO

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preflop is marginal. the point of the post is the turn.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:55 AM
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i think calling is the definitely the best play. fold out of the question obviosly on turn, and if you raise you will either knock out an inferior hand or get more action than you're willing to take bye a better hand.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:52 PM
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anything but calling is stupid
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