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33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
Hi! Figured this was a kinda interesting hand I just played.
So what do you do here, and why? How loose does he have to push to make this a repush? Don't cheat with ICM-tools(at least until you thought a bit about this) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com MP2 (t1520) CO (t5240) Button (t4740) Hero (t1790) BB (t2000) UTG (t3180) MP1 (t1530) Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 shoves [t1520] , <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero is thinking about it. |
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
Let's say he shoves any two cards. If he's on any pocket pair, you're dominated (he's 82% to win). If he's on any two random cards that don't include a two, you're about 55% to win - if he's suited and/or connected, that eats into your edge a bit, but it's still a race.
If he's got a 2 (unlikely, since you have half of them) and any higher card you've got much better edge (don't know the odds off-hand). If he's got the other two 2s, it's a chop (barring a 4 card flush). This is highly unlikely to the point I'd probably discard the possibility just to make the analysis easier at the table. So basically, best likely scenario is a race. Given your chip count and the fact that the BB (also a shorty) is yet to act, I think I fold here (if I push, I REALLY don't want to see the BB call behind). You're definitely in push/fold territory, but given that the blinds just passed you, I think I wait for a better spot. |
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
Also consider I'd not hate a race here since I have to pay 1320 for a 3440 pot(given BB folds)..
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
I would call for sure.
There is 600 in the pot from blinds, which is 38% of your stack. MP2 is shoving pretty wide, so unless he has a pair (not a big chance), you are a slight favorite. So overall you are about 50/50 to win I think. With his money and the blinds, you have to race here I think. BB's range will be pretty tight with 2 people in the pot and even if he calls they might have a similar hand, like both an ace. |
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
Yeah, I don't hate the push by any means. And the more I think about waiting for a better spot, the less I like it, since you're going to have to make a move in the next 6 hands anyway and the odds of catching a better PP are low.
So yeah, push it in and hope to (almost) double up. |
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
If you were last to act you could start to consider it, here you risk being allin against 2 players. Still as last to act I would fold any time, I am not calling off all my chips with something thats going to run into overpair around 50% of the times.
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Re: 33$ - 22 facing push - learning experience =)
i like calling this out of the blind, i think this is probably like neutral EV if hes shoving <20% and you can safely assume hes always shoving wide enough with like 3bb IMO. also since youre in the sb the fear of an overcall is minimal.
edit: if you have a read he wont shove loose then fine but even players who are play as bad nits in the early game loosen up immensely at this level with their stacks. also the fact that its 7 handed makes me more inclined to take this generally because i dont think the randoms' pushing range tighten up anymore 7 handed than it would 6, but you're that much further from the prize pool. . |
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