Slowplayed preflop....now what?

#1 09-08-2006, 09:27 PM

Button was pretty agro and was hoping he would squeeze here. Unfortunately this didn't happen. MP is Razor_Edge who is real solid winning multitabling TAG.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($12716.60)
UTG+1 ($10102.94)
MP1 ($4972)
Hero ($6497)
CO ($5322)
Button ($5319)
SB ($4988)
BB ($1205.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $25.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $200, Hero calls $200, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $175, 1 fold.

Flop: ($650) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $450, Hero raises to $1450, SB folds, MP1 calls $1000.

Turn: ($3550) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 calls $3322 (All-In),

Tyler · #2 09-08-2006, 09:29 PM

fold

Jason Strasser (strassa2) · #3 09-08-2006, 09:29 PM

call

Jason Strasser (strassa2) · #4 09-08-2006, 09:30 PM

okokokok it depends it take back call

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Tyler · #5 09-08-2006, 11:28 PM

WITH THE EXTRA INFORMATION PROVIDED I WOULD INSTEAD CALL THE BET

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KRANTZ · #6 09-08-2006, 11:31 PM

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okokokok it depends it take back call

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Daliman · #7 09-09-2006, 03:00 PM

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okokokok it depends it take back call

GREAT POST GRIMSTARR WAY TO PEAK EVERYONES INTEREST.

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I am truly interested in exactly what types of hands you think you are up against here if you were serious initially about calling, which I think you were. Now, when I look at this, obviously I am going to put low connected clubs in his range, along with some flopped pair draws that got there, and MAYBE a few hands that have something going for them that also have Ac. Now, with your experience in higher stakes NL, obviously your thought process goes significantly beyond, " I have kings, if he had a hand here he wouldn't go allin, and if I am behind, I likely have 7 outs". Could you please share some of your insight, and how applicable you feel it may be at lower levels?

MDMA · #8 09-09-2006, 03:21 PM

Wow, empiremaker is just basically a nit, I'm not saying this is a call or anything just that whenever there is doubt, in any thread, and people are discussing merits to each line, he comes along saying "EZ FOLD".

This one is a fold though, but there are other situations when he has been really horrible in his advice, I remember a full-house where there was a "possible" straightflush out where he was going "EZ FOLD" where everyone else was just "CALLCALLCALLCALL".

I also love what samoleus said about him in a thread recently, as well as what strasser said in the september-thread, haha.

DJ Sensei · #9 09-08-2006, 09:30 PM

With clubs and/or a 7 being a very real part of your range, I don't think he's screwing around here.

Fold it.

snugglez88 · #10 09-08-2006, 11:34 PM

I think he's got a set or a flush