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Typical Commerce 20-40 game...meaning, a few decent players, a few who are pretty bad, a couple morons, and me.
I've been card dead for a long time...it's been somewhere around an hour since I last raised pre-flop, and I've only seen like 2 flops in that time. I raise UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Moron in EP calls, MP poster (new player, pretty tight and thoroughly unpleasant) calls, button calls, SB calls, BB folds. 5 to the flop, 11 small bets. Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet, EP raises me, MP calls, button calls, SB folds, I call. 4 players left, 19 small bets. Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet, EP raises me again, MP calls again without hesitating, button folds, I call. 3 players, 15.5 big bets River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Checked around. Any thoughts? I'd love feedback on all streets. |
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I think you should edit your post and stop the action after button folds the turn
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depending on your position relative to the morons and the preflop action at the table, i would consider limping over raising this hand preflop, especially with a decent player having posted)...
i would also consider checking the flop and watching what happens, probably calling one bet, but def folding for two back to you...im not really a fan of betting this flop into a large field out of position... turn: i like... |
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depending on your position relative to the morons and the preflop action at the table, i would consider limping over raising this hand preflop, especially with a decent player having posted)... i would also consider checking the flop and watching what happens, probably calling one bet, but def folding for two back to you...im not really a fan of betting this flop into a large field out of position... turn: i like... [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you about preflop...I think I raised mostly because I hadn't played a hand in so long, which of course is a bad reason. Limping would have been better. As for the flop, you're probably right there too...it's not exactly a big flop for my hand. |
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you should be limping PF with A8s in this game without the MP poster. with the poster you should be even more inclined to limp. postflop looks fine
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How sure are you of this? I seem to be getting iso-raised very frequently when I limp from EP at the Foxwoods 20/40. I know this game is different, but I've resolved to never put myself in that situation(thoughts?). Perhaps most of the more observant players know my clearly defined range, since I'm not likely to be LRR with premiums in this game.
I would be likely to fold the turn against many players, as this raise is almost never short of a set and my A "outs" could be dirty and/or held by others. |
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Typical Commerce 20-40 game...meaning, a few decent players, a few who are pretty bad, a couple morons, and me. I've been card dead for a long time...it's been somewhere around an hour since I last raised pre-flop, and I've only seen like 2 flops in that time. I raise UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Moron in EP calls, MP poster (new player, pretty tight and thoroughly unpleasant) calls, button calls, SB calls, BB folds. 5 to the flop, 11 small bets. Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet, EP raises me, MP calls, button calls, SB folds, I call. 4 players left, 19 small bets. Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet, EP raises me again, MP calls again without hesitating, button folds, I call. 3 players, 15.5 big bets River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Checked around. Any thoughts? I'd love feedback on all streets. [/ QUOTE ] After the river checked around, EP sighed and said to me, "You win." I turned over my hand, and he turned over T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He thought the 5 pairing on the river had beaten him, but I had actually sucked out on the turn. MP glared at me for a good 5 seconds, muttered something under his breath, and folded A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] face up. MHIG. |
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MP glared at me for a good 5 seconds, muttered something under his breath... MHIG. [/ QUOTE ] If there were any doubts about this happening at the Commerce 20/40, this sentence puts those to rest. If I had a chip for every time this happened.... oh wait. I do. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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I don't play cards much, but here goes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I would folded preflop. Given that you raised preflop, I would have bet/called the flop if it got headsup, and bet the turn of course. But since you had two cold callers on the flop raise, I would have bet/folded the flop. You're behind most of the time and can still lose if you're not, with all the draws out there. Whomever has a ten will never let go and you're now playing catch up out of position. This is why I wouldn't have raised preflop. In all seriousness, this hand isn't like you. |
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mr gymrat,
i agree with your postflop stuff, but i think this is a definite limp... |
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