You are delt 88...

[WCGRider]

Simple question. Effective stack size is 100$ with .50/1$ blinds. The table play has generally been loose pf. You are utg plus 1 and utg is very tight. UTG raises to 4$. What are you doing with 88, why, and whats your plan.

Furthermore, what are you doing with lower pocket pairs, and higher. What points are you folding/calling/raising?

[jetsetboy]

Fold if the table is loose agro and a lot of player won't hesitate to squeeze if they see you call. I think I only 3b AK/JJ+ in this condition. Depending on utg and how much my 3b will be respected I might have a wider 3b range thou.

Call if the table is loose passive and you won't be 3b often. I'll call with any pp/scs in this condition and will 3b AK/JJ. Plan is to hit your set.

[Chargers In 07]

I probably call every pair and reraise KK+. If other people are aware that he's very tight the chance of a reraise behind is very small. I might dump AK in this spot depending on specific stats.

[WCGRider]

while i understand that point of view chargers, depending on other people at the table to make accurate reads is a very bad strategy in my opinion. You know hes tight, but you may be the only one. You cant know that kind of info.


How passive/agro are we talking to change our decision?

[Johnes Benjamin]

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while i understand that point of view chargers, depending on other people at the table to make accurate reads is a very bad strategy in my opinion. You know hes tight, but you may be the only one. You cant know that kind of info.


How passive/agro are we talking to change our decision?

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Even at NL50 if there is someone with at all decent stats there is a good chance they are using pokertracker. You'd be surprised, i've seen extremely bad fish talking about other people's VP$IP

[WCGRider]

I thinking expecting anything of a table when you dont most of them is bad. And while this hand is online, what if it is live?

Or do people agree its ok to rely on opponents giving a tight utg raiser respect>?

[CaptVimes]

I think if its a loose passive table I'm calling here. Us calling give the loose passives another excuse to come into the pot and make's it easier to make money on the hand if we hit our set. If its likely to get reraised behind you I think it's a fold.

Probably calling with <KK, raising KK+ and folding everything else because there are so many others left behind us to act.

I think this hand would be simpler live because you might see people getting ready to fold once he made his bet or pick something else up.

[five4suited]

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I thinking expecting anything of a table when you dont most of them is bad. And while this hand is online, what if it is live?

Or do people agree its ok to rely on opponents giving a tight utg raiser respect>?

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Live I'm folding this never. Online I'm calling for set value, if I get squeezed I'm reevaluating.

One of the first things I'm determining when I sit down in either situation is whether my opponents are position-aware.

[ncboiler]

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I probably call every pair and reraise KK+.

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I think is is a very bad idea because if you want to play I think you need it heads up.

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If other people are aware that he's very tight the chance of a reraise behind is very small.

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At 100NL there is a very small chance there are that many observant people at the table.

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I might dump AK in this spot depending on specific stats.

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I'm re-raising w/ A/K

[Mr_Donktastic]

call ldo

if the table is loose you will probably get a lot of callers which is great. no one will raise a tight utg raise unless they have a huge hand or are not paying attention.