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$400nl: AA at river facing all in
$2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:09:27 ET - 2007/10/26
Seat 1: ilikekitties ($560.90) Seat 2: Slappz ($378) Seat 3: HERO ($920.70) Seat 4: El Feugo ($539.40) Seat 5: nickyballz ($751) nickyballz posts the small blind of $2 ilikekitties posts the big blind of $4 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [Ac Ah] Slappz folds HERO raises to $14 El Feugo calls $14 nickyballz folds ilikekitties calls $10 *** FLOP *** [2s 4d Jh] ilikekitties checks HERO bets $33 El Feugo folds ilikekitties calls $33 *** TURN *** [2s 4d Jh] [2c] ilikekitties checks HERO bets $69 ilikekitties calls $69 *** RIVER *** [2s 4d Jh 2c] [9s] ilikekitties checks HERO bets $188 ilikekitties raises to $444.90, and is all in hero??? no history with him. i don't think i've been super aggressive or anything at the table to make him wanna bluff |
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
thing is it's 44 or not, he'll have 44 a ton but you still can't fold.
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
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thing is it's 44 or not, he'll have 44 a ton but you still can't fold. [/ QUOTE ] what else does he have here since there were no draws. i doubt he's good enough to try and turn 77/88 type hands into a bluff here |
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
I call here as well. Just a few combos of 44 and 22. We have great odds and if you have no history w/ villain and no reads villain could easily do a retarded thing often enough.
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
The only hand that is beating you here is 44, maaaaaybe something gay like 4-2, or A-2. If he views you as aggro you have to call.
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
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[ QUOTE ] thing is it's 44 or not, he'll have 44 a ton but you still can't fold. [/ QUOTE ] what else does he have here since there were no draws. i doubt he's good enough to try and turn 77/88 type hands into a bluff here [/ QUOTE ] prob tho is it's 257 to win 1138, or you need to win 22.5% to show profit. if we think he's never value checkraising with worse - a fair assumption because an overpair likely doesn't just call pf 3way pot ending action, nor do they take the c/c line (*quick note, as well, if anyone is ever canny enough to check a set 3 times they get my money, thing is they would've gotten it anyway if i actually had an overpair!!!) also we can assume he never has a 2, only 2x that calls pf would be A2s unless he's super loose and since you have 2 aces (club and heart) and the 2 deuces on board (spade and club) that leaves only 1 combo, A2diamonds. So, there's 1 combo of quads, 1 combo of trips, and 6 combos of 44. That's 8 hands that COULD be played this way AND beat us. To satiate a 22.5% bluff frequency, if villain has just 2 combos of hands that bluff (that would be 2 of 10, 20%) or 3 combos (3 of 11, 27%) means this is an easy call. Besides, I know villain. You should call, even though it's likely he will show up with a full boat. (Doesn't make it a bad call, of course!) |
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
wtf. why is no one mentioning 99? i think with no history this is by far the most likely holding given his line. bobbo is correct that we're basically committed here but i still think a fold is optimal tbh.
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
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wtf. why is no one mentioning 99? i think with no history this is by far the most likely holding given his line. bobbo is correct that we're basically committed here but i still think a fold is optimal tbh. [/ QUOTE ] If there is "no history", why exactly would villain assume we are double-barrelling, and call the turn w/ 99? |
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
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wtf. why is no one mentioning 99? i think with no history this is by far the most likely holding given his line. bobbo is correct that we're basically committed here but i still think a fold is optimal tbh. [/ QUOTE ] I dont really agree, 99 is I suppose possible - the extent that I'd assign 1 combo - but no squeeze pf and a call on the turn both point towards him *not* having 99. but it changes the combinatorics to the point villain needs 3 bluff combos, rather then murky 2 or 3. (still a call) |
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Re: $400nl: AA at river facing all in
does anyone check river here?
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