Animal cruelty and child molestation in AC land

[UATrewqaz]

I know there are about 10 AC threads or so as usual on the front page... I saw there was a "who will help the helpless" thread a few months ago and this kind of fits into that vein.

If these questions have been addressed in depth somewhere previously feel free to lock/delete thread.

How are cases of animal cruelty and child molestation handled in AC land?

If I want to say, dip a bunch of kittens in gasoline and lite them on fire, who am I accountable to? What am I accountable for?

Likewise say I want to sexually molest my young child. To what group or entity do I answer to, if any.

[Nielsio]

Can you think of a voluntary solution?

[LinusKS]

The children and the kittens would need to hire "Private Defense Organizations" (PDO's), who would then contact the rapists' and sadists' PDO's and negotiate for arbitration in front of an Neutral Arbitrator. If the pedophile or sadist didn't show up, it would hurt his credit rating.

[Borodog]

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The children and the kittens would need to hire "Private Defense Organizations" (PDO's), who would then contact the rapists' and sadists' PDO's and negotiate for arbitration in front of an Neutral Arbitrator. If the pedophile or sadist didn't show up, it would hurt his credit rating.

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Closer than you think. Much more likely though:

3rd parties would intervene to stop the abuse and/or physically remove the children/animals. If the abuser filed for damages against them, he would lose, since nobody is going to side with kiddie rapers and kitty torturers, especially not arbitrators who want their decisions to retain market value in the community. Who would use an arbitrator who sides with child molesters?

He probably would end up with his credit rating hurt, though.

[pvn]

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The children and the kittens would need to hire "Private Defense Organizations" (PDO's), who would then contact the rapists' and sadists' PDO's and negotiate for arbitration in front of an Neutral Arbitrator. If the pedophile or sadist didn't show up, it would hurt his credit rating.

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As opposed to the state, where you just hire a hotshot celebrity lawyer (if you're rich), bribe the monopoly arbitrator (if you're rich) and walk away with no punishment.

Two can play the "keep repeating the dumbest thing possible" game.

[neverforgetlol]

Child molestation will occur if it can be made profitable. There could definitely be a market for such a thing.

[Vagos]

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Child molestation will occur if it can be made profitable. There could definitely be a market for such a thing.

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There's also a demand to keep child predators out of neighborhoods and communities. The demand for said protection is going to be higher than the demand for child molestation.

I honestly don't get it. Even after all us ACists hammer the point home about social norms and how they still exist with or without a government, you guys still keep coming up with this crap every couple of weeks? How many parents are honestly sitting at home right now thinking, "Man I really would love to molest my children, but that damn government won't let me! If only they weren't around!!"

On the other side of the coin, who is running to the phone to call the cops in today's society but then if the big bad monopolistic force isn't around, they just decide to stick their heads in the sand instead of pick up a phone?

How many threads about Bill Gates slaughtering homeless people and pvn posting OJ Simpson pictures do we need before we can dismiss this incredibly weak argument against AC?

[ShakeZula06]

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If I want to say, dip a bunch of kittens in gasoline and lite them on fire, who am I accountable to? What am I accountable for?

Likewise say I want to sexually molest my young child. To what group or entity do I answer to, if any.


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People that want to stand up against animal cruelty and child molestation. You think everyone living around you are just going to throw up their hands and say "oh well"?

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If I want to say, dip a bunch of kittens in gasoline and lite them on fire, who am I accountable to? What am I accountable for?

Likewise say I want to sexually molest my young child. To what group or entity do I answer to, if any.


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People that want to stand up against animal cruelty and child molestation. You think everyone living around you are just going to throw up their hands and say "oh well"?

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Yes I think people will do this. How often do people allow men to beat their wives while the neighbors know about it and do nothing? I would make the assumption that most people naturally don't want to interfere with the business of others.

[Borodog]

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If I want to say, dip a bunch of kittens in gasoline and lite them on fire, who am I accountable to? What am I accountable for?

Likewise say I want to sexually molest my young child. To what group or entity do I answer to, if any.


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People that want to stand up against animal cruelty and child molestation. You think everyone living around you are just going to throw up their hands and say "oh well"?

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Yes I think people will do this. How often do people allow men to beat their wives while the neighbors know about it and do nothing? I would make the assumption that most people naturally don't want to interfere with the business of others.

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You are stuck inside of a box, a particular mode of thinking that relies on a monopolist source of intervention. If your neighbor was beating his wife, what would you do now? Probably call the cops. Just because there would be no monopoly of intervention does not mean there would not be organizations you could contact that would intervene somehow. There are perfectly reasonable market examples of similar organizations, for example animal rescue organizations. In a culture where the norm is that it is ok to incur onto someone's property to stop them from harming another (not all that unual) then the wife-beater will not have a case against the intervening organization, since no reputable arbitrator is going to side with the wife-beater.