How spewey is this? 5/10

[teh_mewse]

Villian has been 3 betting steals and cbetting aggressively. Otherwise fairly tight player.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,758.00
BB: $1,186.00
UTG: $1,157.75
Hero (CO): $962.00
BTN: $3,362.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $125.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $90.00

Flop: ($260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $185.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $837.00</font>

[tozzy]

youre aware that villain is not going to fold an overpair like EVER?

[rebuyboy]

standard although preflop if im playing well i fold

[xorbie]

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standard although preflop if im playing well i fold

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[jono]

pretty spewy

[teh_mewse]

I really hate folding this preflop to someone who's constantly 3 betting you. Its a potential monster and we have position. If i wait til 99+ to call 3 bets its +ev for him to 3 bet me with any 2 cards

[4CardStraight]

Well, I think you had 3 great chances to fold and passed them all up.

[tozzy]

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Well, I think you had 3 great chances to fold and passed them all up.

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well, i think opfenfolding 22 from the CO is incredibly stupid.

[4CardStraight]

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Well, I think you had 3 great chances to fold and passed them all up.

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well, i think opfenfolding 22 from the CO is incredibly stupid.

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Thats fine. I know I have open raised 22 from the cutoff on many occasions. If the blinds are playing tight and we have decent steal equity this is a great hand to raise from cutoff. If we are playing so deep that we can be 3 bet and still have implied odds to hit a set, I also like a raise here with 22. If we have severely loose aggressive opponents, and we dont have implied odds to hit a set if 3bet (ie if the 3bet makes it so that preflop we are putting in almost 10% of our stack), then I think 22 is a decent open fold here. Sure its a potential monster, but it also suffers the greatest set over set issues, which to be sure are quite rare, but happen enough that if we are playing on very thin implied set odds (10 to 1 effective stacks vs preflop betting), then it is consequential. If blinds arent going to fold, then we are simply playing cards that are unlikely to improve on the flop, against opponents that will be difficult to read, and we arent going to like any boards. If we are playing very tight opponents, or ones that are highly predictable, ones that will call us preflop and check fold most flops, then its a no brainer. Folding 22 from the cutoff is probably not even a default action, but I certainly think it is defensible, and I would love to know for succesful NL deep stack players what their average EV is for raising 22 from the cutoff, my guess is that it is thin at best.

But whatever, I dont mind being wrong, and I only barely belong in this forum. I do think this hand is unarguably complete spew.

[Trix]

Noone good openfolds 22 in the co.. You can hit a set!