Yep.

[NinaWilliams]

Villain is unknown.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero

[thepizzlefosho]

i throw up in my mouth and call down.

[sharpie]

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i blurt obscenities and call down.

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[vmacosta]

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i write a PT query to figure out how much money i'm burning by calling down here

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[rzk]

why are we betting this turn? there are more combos with a 9 or Q than there are with a 5 or a straight draw. why not check behind and let him bluff or value bluff the river?

[vmacosta]

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why are we betting this turn? there are more combos with a 9 or Q than there are with a 5 or a straight draw. why not check behind and let him bluff or value bluff the river?

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rzk, i think the basic idea is that when he coldcalls out of the SB and then c/c's the flop he has something between k-hi and 88 the vast majority of the time. ppl don't usually c/c the flop with good pairs when the board is this drawy.

Betting twice vs. this range {decent SD hands worse than ours} is obviously the vast superior play.

That said, its pretty rare for ppl to c/r the turn with a good flushdraw or str8 draw, so our hand does not look good here anymore when we're raised on the turn.

ps-there is a good reason why ppl don't wait until the turn to raise their good draws here and that's cuz just about everybody nowadays, when they grit their teeth and bet the turn with A-hi or better, will call down all raises.

[danzasmack]

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i don't bet this turn if i'm not 100% bet/folding for 100% bet/calling down

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[jba]

danza who are you quoting? I was about to make that post earlier and then read your reply but you seem to be the first saying it now.

[Absolution]

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It's cool to take a quote now and change it.

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[danzasmack]

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yeah everybody else was replying in quotes so i did that too

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