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Appropriate draw play?
PokerStars Game #7885217740: 5 Card Draw Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/11 - 18:29:06 (ET)
Table 'Mette II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: DannyxOcean ($24.90 in chips) Seat 2: Fight ($2 in chips) Seat 3: Gammastyle ($23.50 in chips) Seat 4: newghetto ($17.05 in chips) Seat 5: jimmybluffit ($7.40 in chips) Seat 6: loggerdan ($27.70 in chips) Fight: posts small blind $0.25 Gammastyle: posts big blind $0.50 *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to DannyxOcean [Qd Td 4s 9d Ad] newghetto: raises $0.50 to $1 jimmybluffit: calls $1 loggerdan: folds DannyxOcean: ??? The pot is already 2.75, with a possible BB or SB call making it 3.25ish on average. Do the implied odds make this flush draw a call, or should I just fold? Danny |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
Another Question:
If 3.25ish/1 isn't enough for you to play a flush draw here, what odds would you need, considering this is low limit and it's likely we will be paid off if we hit. |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
5 to 1 odds. You won't get paid off often enough, believe me. It's okay if you're in the blinds but don't forget that you'll also be first to act and you'll have to hope to check raise or be up against high trips to be paid off.
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
i think its close and i think call is fine - it wouldnt be close if you werent on the button or as close if you didnt have the nut flush draw
stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
Without question, fold.
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
Easy fold, and from the SB as well.
From the BB, at 2.75-1, it's not as bad as it is from any other position because you could pair your ace and that might be the best hand. Implied odds don't come up nearly as much in draw as they do in hold 'em. You've got fewer betting rounds, fewer players and your swap action will often give away what you're drawing at, reducing the likelihood that you'll get people betting into you, calling your bets or raising you. |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
3 bet it and stand pat! The guy UTG will want to call, but will be worried when the guy to act after him (and before you) draws one, and the draw 1 guy will not improve and fold too.
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
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3 bet it and stand pat! The guy UTG will want to call, but will be worried when the guy to act after him (and before you) draws one, and the draw 1 guy will not improve and fold too. [/ QUOTE ] At these limits, nobody folds to a pat hand. |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
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3 bet it and stand pat! The guy UTG will want to call, but will be worried when the guy to act after him (and before you) draws one, and the draw 1 guy will not improve and fold too. [/ QUOTE ] That's horrible advice. |
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Re: Appropriate draw play?
It was jokish advice. But I don't know if flat out horrible is fitting. Maybe not appropriate for .50/1.00, and certainly not a regular action to take, but if the unknowns in the equation about the players already in the pot fit the right profiles, why not?
If player one was you (flafishy), and player two was Biggle. Would it be inneffective? Keep in mind assuming its a 3way pot, the pat bluffer would be risking 2.50 to win 3.75, so it doesn't even need to work 1/2 the time to be profitable. And how often as an open raiser do you end up with a hand you are willing to call a patbluff from someone you don't really suspect it from? Rarely. So while I agree that its probably not applicable in this situation (although it may be), writing it off completely might not be that good an idea either. |
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