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Old 05-19-2007, 06:30 AM
cmoke cmoke is offline
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Default What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

I am playing at my normal 5/10 limit game the other day and 10 minutes into the game I am on the button with AKs. I do what I normally do and raise. The big blind is a dealer I know his name but haven't played him before even though he apparently knows me and my image.

He raises me and I immediately reraise. We end up capping it. the flop comes K high rainbow. He checks and I bet.

He flips out and folds face up saying "anything but a king!!" I look down and there are two Aces staring back. I think about it for a second, and turn my hand faceup. "Oh" he says "I thought you flopped a set, the way you played preflop" WTF

This is the latest example from people who actually pay attention (usually against dealers & a few regulars). Luckily, not too many people pay attention. But my question is am I leaving money on the table with this kind of image, or should I stay tight. I can sometimes go an hour between playing hands, sometimes people notice, sometimes not.

Also, what is your image? Is is what you want it to be? Do you actively cultivate it, or do you even worry about it? Thanks for the help guys, I am learning alot from you all.

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Old 05-19-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

lol. there is no such thing as a bad image. you just need to adjust your play to exploit your image.

simply stated. if they think you're tight, bluff more.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:14 AM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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Luckily, not too many people pay attention.

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When more people pay attention, then worry about your image.

In the example you gave, your image won you the pot.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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Old 05-19-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

if most people aren't paying attention it shouldn't be a problem.

my image is somewhat low key i beleive. i don't talk about poker. i don't talk about poker plays. i don't talk about odds. i don't justify plays. i don't tell bad beats. i don't complain when drawn out on. players should recognise i play a tight agressive style, but i am very untimidating and i continue to get great action.
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:44 AM
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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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It just seems to me that my image is opposite of alot of people here. it's tight to the point of pokrlikeitsprose's image. It is an auto 3bet on alot of hands against alot of players except me, they go into check call mode or fold. A few months ago, I was playing against a regular and I raise utg with KK, he reraises me on the button, so I instareraise and he instamucks AQ. Things like that are starting me wondering if LAG is better

I just kind of wondered to the majority here who have loose aggressive images, if they work on that image, if they prefer that to a tight one, and if people like me and p.l.i.p. could earn a few more bets by giving more action

the example I gave in op worked out that time. But I had to be amazed by that and really start to think about my image after that one and if there was a better way out there for me to earn a little more.
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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It just seems to me that my image is opposite of alot of people here. it's tight to the point of pokrlikeitsprose's image. It is an auto 3bet on alot of hands against alot of players except me, they go into check call mode or fold. A few months ago, I was playing against a regular and I raise utg with KK, he reraises me on the button, so I instareraise and he instamucks AQ. Things like that are starting me wondering if LAG is better

I just kind of wondered to the majority here who have loose aggressive images, if they work on that image, if they prefer that to a tight one, and if people like me and p.l.i.p. could earn a few more bets by giving more action

the example I gave in op worked out that time. But I had to be amazed by that and really start to think about my image after that one and if there was a better way out there for me to earn a little more.

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The suggestion I would give here if you don't want someone to fold when you reraise preflop is not to "instareraise". Probably better if you don't "insta" do anything at any point - it looks like you at least have a decision to make and your hand isn't so good that your only conceivable option is to raise.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:16 PM
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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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A few months ago, I was playing against a regular and I raise utg with KK, he reraises me on the button, so I instareraise and he instamucks AQ. Things like that are starting me wondering if LAG is better


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That's another great result for you. He was getting 7-1 odds to beat you with an ace, and he folded. These people seem to be completely intimidated by you and they're making terrible plays as a result.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:22 PM
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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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A few months ago, I was playing against a regular and I raise utg with KK, he reraises me on the button, so I instareraise and he instamucks AQ. Things like that are starting me wondering if LAG is better


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That's another great result for you. He was getting 7-1 odds to beat you with an ace, and he folded. These people seem to be completely intimidated by you and they're making terrible plays as a result.

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I disagree with this - wouldn't it be right to fold his AQ if he knew you had Kings? AQo only has about 28% equity vs KK, and that is only if he will chase the ace until the river if it doesn't flop. I really don't think he has the odds to call just in hopes an Ace will flop.

If the "instaraise" made him put the OP on a range of, say, AA, KK, or AK, then the AQ fold would definately be right.

Rob
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