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Old 11-02-2007, 06:15 PM
MitchL MitchL is offline
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Default who hates this?

No HUD or reads on this guy except that so far he seems like a standard lagfish.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB caps!</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.00 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (10.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises?
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: who hates this?

anyone like just calling the flop?

wa/wb spot. either guy can have aa/ak and we also don't want to blow them off of a big PP or a worse ace
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:28 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: who hates this?

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anyone like just calling the flop?

wa/wb spot. either guy can have aa/ak and we also don't want to blow them off of a big PP or a worse ace

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I just call the flop aswell.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:37 PM
numbnuts007 numbnuts007 is offline
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Default Re: who hates this?

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anyone like just calling the flop?

wa/wb spot. either guy can have aa/ak and we also don't want to blow them off of a big PP or a worse ace

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I just call the flop aswell.

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Yeah, I like calling for sure. Even the two players combined are likely to only be drawing to 4-5 outs to beat us if we're ahead.

The river is very tricky indeed, but I like it if you think this is a player that will bet here.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: who hates this?

I'm in the call flop camp. I know the pot is big but I don't really love my hand here.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: who hates this?

I didnt provide a read of pf capper, but I remember thinking he was solid sf tag.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:27 PM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: who hates this?

when the SB caps I can't really find much value in a raise on the flop. If he has a worse hand you want him to keep barreling into you, if he has AA, AK or a set you are screwed. So I probably just call his flop bet.

The buttons play is super confusing to me. I can't think what he would 3-bet pf that would warrant a 3-bet on the flop, but a check behind on the turn. 68 doesnt really seem realistic. A worse Ax that he lost his mind with on the flop is most likely.

I guess a lot of worse Ax are in his range, so the river c/r looks good.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:31 PM
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I like river.Mostly because I always check raise river in this spot [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img].
As I said in a previous post.Value bets against good players are tricky and villain should think twice before betting but generally it is easy to induce a value bet from a villain with a PP. And often our CR is interpreted as a bluff and gets a call.
If he has nothing we can induce a bluff also by checking.But he canīt be so bad can he?
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:37 PM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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gosh, i think it's pretty damn close to perfect.

flop raise is fine, let's not overthink this guys.

river is close only because your (crappy) read on him indicates 7xs might be in his range. Against majority of online players it is expert though.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:07 PM
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Put me in the love camp with Apanagae and Vma. Altho Apa only expressed his love for the river


With the moron behind us there is plenty of value in a raise as SB gets odds to call with his pp's.

Also. SB should have a huge range if he sees us a TAGgish and and Button as a LAG fish
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