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Finally opened an account there and it's been a long time since I've seen tables so loose. Kind of running bad so far which doesn't help the move up. My money feels a little scared, but not too much. My blind stealing is staying aggressive, but I'm being 3 bet a lot early on this session w/o having shown down loser hands. Missing my big cards every flop isn't helping. I am scaling my steal range back a bit though because of the 1/3 blind structure. That is correct yes since I'm rewarded with less than the regular proportion? Here's a hand. Please comment on my action and then give your action on the river. Converted by PokerGeek PokerStars Limit Hold'em Ring - $3/$6 Stakes (9 handed) Starting Stacks Seat 1: LP ($37) Seat 2: CO ($57) Seat 3: Button ($199) Seat 4: Small blind (Hero) ($73) Seat 6: Big blind ($79) Seat 7: UTG ($114) Seat 8: UTG+1 ($33) Seat 9: MP1 ($132) Seat 10: MP2 ($126.50) Preflop: Hero is Small blind with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, Big blind checks Flop: (5.67 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> Hero checks, Big blind checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls Turn: (6.83 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds River: (9.83 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero... Final Pot: $58 ($2 rake) Results not shown |
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NH, and a good check on the river, Be (I can tell because the pot didn't get any bigger). You're not going to fold anything you want to fold. I probably call one back to me, closing the action or close to it.
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I don't like the turn bet...
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I like the c/r on the flop. I'm guessing the intent was to get rid of overcards?
I don't like the turn bet once you get called and there's still four in. I'm not convinced there's an equity edge that's worth pushing. Giving a free card is probably bad here, but I don't think it's terrible, as I don't see any decent draws folding here. |
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I like the c/r on the flop. I'm guessing the intent was to get rid of overcards? I don't like the turn bet once you get called and there's still four in. I'm not convinced there's an equity edge that's worth pushing. Giving a free card is probably bad here, but I don't think it's terrible, as I don't see any decent draws folding here. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you want to give them a free card though? You don't just bet to make people fold. |
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I'm not saying giving a free card is good, I'm saying giving a free card when they were going to call, is not as bad as if they weren't.
(Not sure that makes sense, or I'm just rambling [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I'm tired ) I will clarify by saying that I'm not justifying a check based on a free card being less worse than normal, that's more of a bonus feature. I do think suggesting a bet here based solely on not giving a free card is incorrect (not that anyone has said that). I think with four people in the chance we are ahead is low, and with not much of a draw, that I don't think there is enough equity to bet here. |
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I'm not saying giving a free card is good, I'm saying giving a free card when they were going to call, is not as bad as if they weren't. [/ QUOTE ] Well, of course. If they weren't going to call, you wish you'd bet to win the pot. But you still should not give them a free card. [ QUOTE ] (Not sure that makes sense, or I'm just rambling [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I'm tired ) I will clarify by saying that I'm not justifying a check based on a free card being less worse than normal, that's more of a bonus feature. I do think suggesting a bet here based solely on not giving a free card is incorrect (not that anyone has said that). [/ QUOTE ] No, I am absolutely saying that. You should bet because you are most likely ahead and you want players with OCs/pair of 2s either to fold and not draw out on you or call incorrectly. You would love to fold out a GS too. [ QUOTE ] I think with four people in the chance we are ahead is low [/ QUOTE ] I think you are wrong and we likely have the best hand here. You are betting for value here. If the other players had say an openender, OCs and a gutshot with an OC, they have a total of 21 outs. This is if none of them need the same cards as outs. You are still a favourite against all three *even if they call*. If someone has a 6 or 5, well, they've played that a bit oddly. It's quite unlikely in any case, because there aren't that many hands that have those cards in that the average player will play. [ QUOTE ] and with not much of a draw, that I don't think there is enough equity to bet here. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, the draw is cream on the cake! If a 3 comes on the river, you are laughing all the way to the bank. |
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[ QUOTE ] I like the c/r on the flop. I'm guessing the intent was to get rid of overcards? I don't like the turn bet once you get called and there's still four in. I'm not convinced there's an equity edge that's worth pushing. Giving a free card is probably bad here, but I don't think it's terrible, as I don't see any decent draws folding here. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you want to give them a free card though? You don't just bet to make people fold. [/ QUOTE ] The problem is that the hero is probably the one drawing here... |
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yeah i think i'd check call the turn. how often does this get checked around? not often. why? because we don't have the best hand very often after the flop action. if we bet do we have to call a raise? yes.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I like the c/r on the flop. I'm guessing the intent was to get rid of overcards? I don't like the turn bet once you get called and there's still four in. I'm not convinced there's an equity edge that's worth pushing. Giving a free card is probably bad here, but I don't think it's terrible, as I don't see any decent draws folding here. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you want to give them a free card though? You don't just bet to make people fold. [/ QUOTE ] The problem is that the hero is probably the one drawing here... [/ QUOTE ] No, I absolutely do not think so. You have no reason to think you are here. |
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