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Old 09-22-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default AK preflop (basic type stuff)

so this is obviosly a beginners type situation, but i have been getting crippled the last week with AK all in spots.


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SB: $75.45
BB: $96.60
Hero (UTG): $95.50
CO: $215.10
BTN: $105.40

Reads: <font color="blue">3b is 22/12 over 3500 hands, SB is unknown.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12.00</font>, SB calls $11.50, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $95.50</font>
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

That is fine if you want to race for your stack. You also could be crushed considering button's range here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

i do the same
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:13 PM
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i do the same

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what kinda stats does BTN need here for you to NOT shove/4bet?
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

nittier numbers (15/12). an OK player who is positionally aware enough to know you are raising UTG.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

I don't want to Hijack OP's post, But other than limping a little more. A 22/12 and a 15/12 pretty much Raise the same types of hands, don't they?

I also believe the 3 better needs looser numbers (PFR), not tighter.

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nittier numbers (15/12). an OK player who is positionally aware enough to know you are raising UTG.

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Old 09-22-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

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i do the same

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what kinda stats does BTN need here for you to NOT shove/4bet?

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i could fold vs a 13/10 or something similar i guess
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

a 22/12's 3betting range will most likely be TT+,AQ+ (without history) and may be wider from the BTN.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.175% 38.86% 10.32% 29939770 7951130.50 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 50.825% 40.51% 10.32% 31211649 7951130.50 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

plus he will fold a lot of this stuff, so shove is teh goods
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:02 PM
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That is fine if you want to race for your stack. You also could be crushed considering button's range here.

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i mean thats always a concern with AK and 4 betting.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: AK preflop (basic type stuff)

i mkae this shove based on history not stats
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