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LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
One thing I've always struggled with is raising my PFR. Typically my PFR is about half of my VP$IP.
Let's say you have 22-88 OTB and there was an EP raise and a few cold callers. Are you guys always 3-betting this with position? I guess a lot of the difference in my VP/PFR comes from situations like this where I have a hand I can stack but a 3-bet would pretty much ruin my implied odds for the hand. Same thing with cold calling raises in the blinds with hands that can stack but 3-betting with horrible position is so gross. I just don't understand how you can get to say 20/18 or 17/15 without 3-betting nearly every single hand you play. |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
almost never limp, raise a wide range from CO/BTN
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
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Let's say you have 22-88 OTB and there was an EP raise and a few cold callers. [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you play <100nl? Cuz this doesn't really happen that often at 200nl+. To answer your Q basically just never open limp and cold call/overlimp rarely. |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
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[ QUOTE ] Let's say you have 22-88 OTB and there was an EP raise and a few cold callers. [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you play <100nl? Cuz this doesn't really happen that often at 200nl+. To answer your Q basically just never open limp and cold very/overlimp rarely. [/ QUOTE ] The vast majority of my cold calling range is with 22-TT. At NL200+, do you routinely 3bet or fold them to an EP or EMP raise? For example:- 20/8 UTG+2 raises to 4bb, folded to you on the Button holding 77. Your play? |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
standard call
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
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standard call [/ QUOTE ] 99 or TT might be a different story depending on the villain. Happy birthday GM! |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
22-88 is only 3.2% of hands.
To get to a 10% difference you would have to limp or call: TT-22,AJs-A2s,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,54s,43s,32s |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
Or just remember "if it's good enough to call it's most likely good enough to raise".
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
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standard call [/ QUOTE ] So, given the fact that your pfr is close to your vpip, does 22-99 make up almost all of your CCs? |
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Re: LC: How do you get VP$IP and PFR close?
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[ QUOTE ] standard call [/ QUOTE ] So, given the fact that your pfr is close to your vpip, does 22-99 make up almost all of your CCs? [/ QUOTE ] No. I also didn't say my pfr is THAT close to my VPIP, just saying that's how one would get there. |
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