Anyone successful at 10nl? (Help needed)

[Peleus]

If so, how the hell do you do it?

I just sit there and shake my head at how bad some of the plays are. I just can't figure out why I can't make money at it. Play super tight and raise the premium hands to a stupid amount and get called? Advice for 10NL playing styles would be appreciated.



I suppose the best thing to do would be what I did for the first half of hands and not so much what I did for the second half.

Any comments on helping me spot what my leaks are would be appreciated as well.

[BT2]

never bluff, wait for premium hands, and then bet large.

[Larude]

I hope you also would like to play poker with which you can move up, so please don't wait only for premium hands. If there are one or two loose limpers I raise it up from the CO of the button with any half decent hand, beware of tightpassives though they might sit on a big hand. Call behind limpers with your speculative hands (suited connectors, suited aces small pocketpairs), open with all pocketpairs from MP2; on the button and CO call with the bigger offsuit connectors after some limpers. Remember position is the nuts especially in NL10, exploit your opponents playingstyle to the max. Oh yeah BT2 is right about one thing don't bluff on the turn or river unless you know for sure a player can lay down toppair.

[Teddie]

take a screen shot your stats and post them up aswell.

[dcasper70]

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I hope you also would like to play poker with which you can move up, so please don't wait only for premium hands. If there are one or two loose limpers I raise it up from the CO of the button with any half decent hand, beware of tightpassives though they might sit on a big hand. Call behind limpers with your speculative hands (suited connectors, suited aces small pocketpairs), open with all pocketpairs from MP2; on the button and CO call with the bigger offsuit connectors after some limpers. Remember position is the nuts especially in NL10, exploit your opponents playingstyle to the max. Oh yeah BT2 is right about one thing don't bluff on the turn or river unless you know for sure a player can lay down toppair.

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ding, ding, ding!

I started playing NL maybe 5 months ago (after 3 years of nothing but O8). I've been beating NL10 over somewhere near 15k-ish hands doing basically what you see in Larude's post.


I'll post graph & stats for comparison when I get home. I think I'm around 12bb/100.

[mmctrab]

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I hope you also would like to play poker with which you can move up, so please don't wait only for premium hands. If there are one or two loose limpers I raise it up from the CO of the button with any half decent hand, beware of tightpassives though they might sit on a big hand. Call behind limpers with your speculative hands (suited connectors, suited aces small pocketpairs), open with all pocketpairs from MP2; on the button and CO call with the bigger offsuit connectors after some limpers. Remember position is the nuts especially in NL10, exploit your opponents playingstyle to the max. Oh yeah BT2 is right about one thing don't bluff on the turn or river unless you know for sure a player can lay down toppair.

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ding, ding, ding!

I started playing NL maybe 5 months ago (after 3 years of nothing but O8). I've been beating NL10 over somewhere near 15k-ish hands doing basically what you see in Larude's post.


I'll post graph & stats for comparison when I get home. I think I'm around 12bb/100.

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How big a pocket pair do you need in MP2 to raise with? And, how big of a SC do you feel is worth limping in with behind other limpers? I think I'm probably a little too tight in those situations.

[Larude]

I think I know what is wrong about your play, you probably can't lay down a good or mediocre hand to a better holding or you don't force opponents out when they are drawing; I namely don't know what the 'normal' stats should be for WTSD but 21,05 is quite high and mucher higher than mine.

[dcasper70]

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I hope you also would like to play poker with which you can move up, so please don't wait only for premium hands. If there are one or two loose limpers I raise it up from the CO of the button with any half decent hand, beware of tightpassives though they might sit on a big hand. Call behind limpers with your speculative hands (suited connectors, suited aces small pocketpairs), open with all pocketpairs from MP2; on the button and CO call with the bigger offsuit connectors after some limpers. Remember position is the nuts especially in NL10, exploit your opponents playingstyle to the max. Oh yeah BT2 is right about one thing don't bluff on the turn or river unless you know for sure a player can lay down toppair.

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ding, ding, ding!

I started playing NL maybe 5 months ago (after 3 years of nothing but O8). I've been beating NL10 over somewhere near 15k-ish hands doing basically what you see in Larude's post.


I'll post graph & stats for comparison when I get home. I think I'm around 12bb/100.

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How big a pocket pair do you need in MP2 to raise with? And, how big of a SC do you feel is worth limping in with behind other limpers? I think I'm probably a little too tight in those situations.

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It really depends on a whole lot of variables.
Loose or tight table, your image, reads on utg limpers and those yet to act, etc...
I'm pretty aggressive, so it wouldn't take much for me to open raise in mp with nothing but tighties behind me, but throw a 35/22 into the CO and I'll be more careful. OTOH, if a sub 10 vpip player limps UTG, my radar goes off & I'll only limp if a few others came alomg. Certainly won't go past the flop without a monster...

It kinda sucks to hear it all the time, but 'it depends' is really the best answer. Pay attention to stats and tendancies.
And, of course, don't be dumb. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[MrBump]

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I hope you also would like to play poker with which you can move up, so please don't wait only for premium hands. If there are one or two loose limpers I raise it up from the CO of the button with any half decent hand, beware of tightpassives though they might sit on a big hand. Call behind limpers with your speculative hands (suited connectors, suited aces small pocketpairs), open with all pocketpairs from MP2; on the button and CO call with the bigger offsuit connectors after some limpers. Remember position is the nuts especially in NL10, exploit your opponents playingstyle to the max. Oh yeah BT2 is right about one thing don't bluff on the turn or river unless you know for sure a player can lay down toppair.

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This is good advice. I would also add, don't even semi-bluff raise your strong draws vs opponents who have just bet into you - They have hit the board and at these levels, they aren't going anywhere ! Just call if you're getting the odds to draw or close to the odds, because when you hit, they'll be paying you off (implied odds)...

GL

[crunny]

Post your PF limp and raise guidelines
eg.

EP:
limp 22-66
raise 77-AA, AK, AQ
.
etc.....