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Old 04-03-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

Today, Tuesday April 3, is a big day for poker here in Texas. San Antonio State Rep Jose Menendez has introduced a bill making card rooms legal in the state, and poker players are converging on the capital in Austin to support the legislation.

Here is an article talking about this. It's too bad I'm swamped at work or I'd roadie up there to show support... Since we have legal horse racing and lotteries its not entirely impossible this won't pass (damn religious freaks running the state) but I have my doubts it'll succeed. Man it would be so sweet to have poker finally be legal here.

Oh well, hoping for the best in TX...

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Old 04-03-2007, 02:22 PM
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anyone know anything about this????

"Menendez said that he plans to amend his bill before presenting it to the licensing panel to require that games be played on an electric table that deals computer-generated cards that can be seen only by the player who receives them."

that would suck so bad
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:06 PM
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anyone know anything about this????

"Menendez said that he plans to amend his bill before presenting it to the licensing panel to require that games be played on an electric table that deals computer-generated cards that can be seen only by the player who receives them."

that would suck so bad

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wow this would suck.. please say it isnt so..
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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anyone know anything about this????

"Menendez said that he plans to amend his bill before presenting it to the licensing panel to require that games be played on an electric table that deals computer-generated cards that can be seen only by the player who receives them."

that would suck so bad

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Sounds like there may be a misunderstanding. I think that is talking about a clarification to the bill. Here's the relevant text from the bill itself, with text bolded by me.

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Sec. 2004.454. ELECTRONIC POKER TABLE. (a) An electronic
poker table must:
(1) provide each player position with a touch screen
that allows the player to:
(A) view cards dealt to the player and the
remaining chips and other game information; and
(B) input game decisions;

(2) include a video screen in the center of the table
that displays game information, chips bet by each player, and cards
dealt to all players;
(3) maintain a complete hand history for a period of 30
days that is accessible to the commission by remote connection;
(4) display the collection fee for the game in a
central location viewable by all players;
(5) provide a feature that enables a replay of the
previous game; and
(6) provide a feature that enables complete recovery
of the complete game if a power disruption occurs.
(b) An electronic poker table must use:
(1) a central server to deal electronic cards to each
player in a poker hand; and
(2) a cage management system application to automate
the creation and maintenance of accounts for players at the table,
to perform cash-in and cash-out functions, and for payment of the
gross receipts tax to this state.

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Note that nowhere in the quoted text from the bill does it state that the player's touchscreen prevent anyone else from seeing that player's hole cards. The above quote sounds like he means to amend the bill to add in a provision that for electronic tables, players' touchscreens actually keep the hole cards private. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The bill does allow for live games played the old-fashioned way, with dealers and cards and chips, and even stipulates things like a deck can only be used for 50 hands. It just also allows these newfangled 'lectronic table thingies to be used as well.

Full text is here: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...l/HB03186I.htm
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

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[ QUOTE ]
anyone know anything about this????

"Menendez said that he plans to amend his bill before presenting it to the licensing panel to require that games be played on an electric table that deals computer-generated cards that can be seen only by the player who receives them."

that would suck so bad

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like there may be a misunderstanding. I think that is talking about a clarification to the bill. Here's the relevant text from the bill itself, with text bolded by me.

[ QUOTE ]
Sec. 2004.454. ELECTRONIC POKER TABLE. (a) An electronic
poker table must:
(1) provide each player position with a touch screen
that allows the player to:
(A) view cards dealt to the player and the
remaining chips and other game information; and
(B) input game decisions;

(2) include a video screen in the center of the table
that displays game information, chips bet by each player, and cards
dealt to all players;
(3) maintain a complete hand history for a period of 30
days that is accessible to the commission by remote connection;
(4) display the collection fee for the game in a
central location viewable by all players;
(5) provide a feature that enables a replay of the
previous game; and
(6) provide a feature that enables complete recovery
of the complete game if a power disruption occurs.
(b) An electronic poker table must use:
(1) a central server to deal electronic cards to each
player in a poker hand; and
(2) a cage management system application to automate
the creation and maintenance of accounts for players at the table,
to perform cash-in and cash-out functions, and for payment of the
gross receipts tax to this state.

[/ QUOTE ]

Note that nowhere in the quoted text from the bill does it state that the player's touchscreen prevent anyone else from seeing that player's hole cards. The above quote sounds like he means to amend the bill to add in a provision that for electronic tables, players' touchscreens actually keep the hole cards private. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The bill does allow for live games played the old-fashioned way, with dealers and cards and chips, and even stipulates things like a deck can only be used for 50 hands. It just also allows these newfangled 'lectronic table thingies to be used as well.

Full text is here: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...l/HB03186I.htm

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while i hope you're correct, the quote did say, "..require that games be played on electric tables..."
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

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while i hope you're correct, the quote did say, "..require that games be played on electric tables..."

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All of the difference is in the word "be". It might belong there, or it might not. Plus, making that significant a change would be more than amending it; it would require major modifications to most of the text of the bill.

That said, I could be wrong. I think I'm right, but who knows? Is there a link to where the quote was published, so we could check out the context?
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

article here
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

so have they already talked about poker yet or is it slated for later?
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

I can't be certain since I've only been listening for awhile, but I haven't seen any updates online saying otherwise.

The Pokerati blog said that their team got a call at 7:38pm CST to head over to the capital to get ready. I started listening a little after 8CST, so I don't think they have discussed it yet.

This interior design bill they've been going over for the past half hour or more is absolutely brutal.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: TEXAS Hold\'em needs to be legal in TEXAS

i agree....how long will they go its 9:30 central time
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