$10/$20 flush vs PoorUser 3 handed 200BB deep

catcher193 · #1 07-30-2007, 05:10 AM

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saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($8208)
Button ($4394)
Hero ($3795)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises to $80, Hero calls $60.

Flop: ($160) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $120, Hero calls $120.

Turn: ($400) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $300, Hero calls $300.

River: ($1000) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $200, Hero raises to $1400, BB raises to $7708 $1900 more for me to call.....

Villian is PoorUser
He is pretty good and plays kinda laggy
I'm pretty sure the small riverbet is to induce, I'm not sure whether he wants to snap off my bluffraise or have me make a bad valueraise, not to mention I have practically the best hand in my range.

KhalynYohrk · #2 07-30-2007, 05:13 AM

Well, which was it?
This is a must call after committing all those chips, unless someone disagrees...

cowpig · #3 07-30-2007, 05:14 AM

I can't see you having the best hand here

edit: Unless he expects you to c/r for value with any ace? Then it would be an easy call.

KhalynYohrk · #4 07-30-2007, 05:19 AM

I think this is a very tough spot, what about a smooth call instead of a raise??

Number27 · #5 07-30-2007, 05:38 AM

I know you don't want advice about this; but preflop and turn are bad. That being said I think this is a fold. You're not quite getting 3:1 here and I don't see you being good one out of four times. He's just calling the river c/r with a lone ace and he can't expect you to fold. This looks like three's full.

Big_Jim · #6 07-30-2007, 05:40 AM

wtf are you doing on the turn?

catcher193 · #7 07-30-2007, 05:45 AM

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wtf are you doing on the turn?

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his range is huge here, I am fairly confident I can donk a pair for value and I have 4 spades!

Moonshine · #8 07-30-2007, 12:48 PM

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I can't see you having the best hand here

edit: Unless he expects you to c/r for value with any ace? Then it would be an easy call.

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even if he expects us to c/r an ace for value, it's still not an easy call unless he expects us to c/r an Ace for value AND call his raise with worse.

ie: even if he has AK and donks the river, I doubt he's reraising your c/r, simply because it's hard for you to call with a worse hand than a flush

And btw, i definitely don't think he expects you to have a flush in your range, given that you played the hand retardedly for having spades. Thus i think it makes sense to call the river

StackinChipz · #9 07-30-2007, 08:25 AM

Correct me if iam wrong. WTF calling 300 on turn???????

catcher193 · #10 07-30-2007, 08:40 AM

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Correct me if iam wrong. WTF calling 300 on turn???????

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think it should have been a fold, I thought my hand had enough immidiate equity/implied odds to call...