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preflop
200nl
100bb effective stacks sb is a TAG reg, running 21/18/4.5 so he's pretty aggro preflop and attempt to steal is 34%. opening the sb fairly often against your bb but nothing insane. you've 3bet him once or twice before and he's folded both his btn and sb. sb opens to $8, you're in the bb w/ XX and 3bet him to $24, he thinks for like 3 secs and shoves. whats a good range for the 3bet preflop and what range are we calling the shove with? |
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Re: preflop
3-betting- who knows, alot.
calling the shove? maybe 99+, AQ+? (you could maybe add some other marginal stuff there). |
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Re: preflop
wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho.
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Re: preflop
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wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho. [/ QUOTE ] given history, i dont think my range is TOO light eh? |
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Re: preflop
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[ QUOTE ] wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho. [/ QUOTE ] given history, i dont think my range is TOO light eh? [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see a range against which calling 99-TT are profitable. And I don't think g-bucks is the correct way to calculate this problem, since he doesn't know your calling range (?). Also, I wouldn't exactly call what OP described as "history." |
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Re: preflop
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I'd like to see a range against which calling 99-TT are profitable. [/ QUOTE ] We're risking $176 to win $224, so we're getting about 1.25-to-1 odds. That means that we only have to win about 45% of the time against his range. Against "AQ+, JJ+" we're winning over 39% of the time. Add in even a tiny chance that he's frustrated and pushing lighter or bluff-pushing and we've got a safely +EV call with 99. Plus, this isn't a classical steal situation, where villain might smooth-call with drawing hands; this is a blind vs. blind situation where pushing preflop saves all sorts of unpleasant decisions postflop and puts his opponent to a nasty decision preflop where he can make all sorts of FTOP mistakes. Also, most villains are going to be hesitant to four-bet push AA, hoping to get more value out of a call and a flop CRAI. Still, it's awfully hard to talk myself into calling with 99 here; I think that's why four-betting all-in is such a powerful tool. |
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Re: preflop
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[ QUOTE ] wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho. [/ QUOTE ] given history, i dont think my range is TOO light eh? [/ QUOTE ] we dont have any relevant history. he has never come over a 3bet before. my range here is pretty tight until i either see one of his 4bets shown down light, or he starts 4betting regularly. QQ+/AK and QQ seems marginal. |
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Re: preflop
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho. [/ QUOTE ] given history, i dont think my range is TOO light eh? [/ QUOTE ] we dont have any relevant history. he has never come over a 3bet before. my range here is pretty tight until i either see one of his 4bets shown down light, or he starts 4betting regularly. QQ+/AK and QQ seems marginal. [/ QUOTE ] wow at folding QQ here. that would be the worst fold ever |
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Re: preflop
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wow, you call off light Orange. I'm only calling AK/QQ+ the first time he does this. 3bet a huge range pf tho. [/ QUOTE ] i think 99+, AQ+ isn't that light really. i would probably look him up with 88 too, tbh. AJ is probably slightly too weak. he is way more likely to be bluff shoving the 1st time imo, so i would look him up lighter the first time, then tighten up my call a shove range |
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Re: preflop
this is so situational, but it's important to begin gauging when Villain's are going to start playing back at you. Then u need to adjust and tighten up your 3-betting ranges and calling the 4-bet pushes lighter.
fwiw, statements like "once or twice" are vague because it suggests real numbers but is also a common phrase who's numerical value might not be literal. |
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