.10/.20 Is this standard or should I fold somewhere?

[Aceium]

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ac Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins 14.25 BB. </font>

Any advice on how to play this would be helpful.

[BigBadBabar]

you can pretty safely fold the turn a lot here if you bet and get raised. sometimes i'd check behind and call most rivers.

[Aceium]

If I'm checking behind and calling most rivers am I just assuming that I'm getting floated by an ace? Or do I put him on better than one pair?

[NIX]

If the guy is agro and can bluff at the ace, you don't want to have to call his turn raise and river bet to see if he actually has it. Plus, if he has KQ/JJ or something, he might be calling you down after he assumes you have AK on the flop. AK got there on the turn, so if he was going to fold to your turn bet, you at least give him a chance to bluff the river.

[KitCloudkicker]

check the turn against aggros.

against passives b/f it.

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he you can't fold the the turn c.r don't bet the turn and call the river ... you are putting in too many bets

what do you think this guy will do this with ... PF+FLOP+TURN???

[Aceium]

Sorry, won't put in the results next time. So the idea here is to get to the showdown for as few bets as possible when the ace hits?

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Sorry, won't put in the results next time. So the idea here is to get to the showdown for as few bets as possible when the ace hits?

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this is a spot that will come up all the time ... and what you do can be diffenent.

but after the ace hits:
what hands do you think he would have raise pre flop but not cap
what hands do you think he would check-raise but just call you 3bet with

will he called the turned ace with any number of hands that you beat?

is there a good chance that this guy will bluff at the ace on the turn with a check raise (ie ... villain tends to be aggressive and somewhat tricky) ... what type of hands would he do this with

if you check the turn will he bet out enough times to make calling worth while

**after getting check raised on the turn why do you feel you need to call down?**

[CrMenace]

Well I must admit that it never occurred to me to check behind the turn.

The issue is that I can envision 99, TT, JJ, KQ, and of course AQ playing the flop this way (QQ, 22, 66 being somewhat more likely to have slowplayed). So once he checks the turn, warning bells aren't going off yet that I'm being trapped. Once I'm c/r'd I can say that he probably has 2 pair or better at that point and give it up.

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Well I must admit that it never occurred to me to check behind the turn.

The issue is that I can envision 99, TT, JJ, KQ, and of course AQ playing the flop this way (QQ, 22, 66 being somewhat more likely to have slowplayed). So once he checks the turn, warning bells aren't going off yet that I'm being trapped. Once I'm c/r'd I can say that he probably has 2 pair or better at that point and give it up.

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CR

after you 3ball the flop ... and the flop come down Q high (those hands easily play back against a standard c-bet), but once the Ace hits on the turn how many are going to call down ...

the ace is also a great bluff card ... in a couple of threads posters talk about a concept from Stox book (I've yet to find time to read it) and they mention something called a 'value check' and it's always been on a turn decision ... I think this might be a simliar 'thing'

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this works best against an aggressive opponent ... obviously