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Old 02-26-2007, 08:17 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default 8/16 turned top two gets donked into

I haven't played limit in forever but I broke my arm so switched back to avoid typing bet sizes. Maybe this is a simple/obvious hand but I wasn't too confident in what I did.

My opponent is 42/21/1.5 over about 80 hands. He openlimps and cold calls a lot preflop so maybe sucks. I'm running about 27/22 but rarely going past the flop (I'm either folding or my opponents are). What do I do when he donks the turn on this board?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $8/$16
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: 8/16 turned top two gets donked into

I'll put villain on an odd 2 pair or a pair + a flush draw. Raise for value and to make him pay for drawing to his flush.
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: 8/16 turned top two gets donked into

raise
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:41 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: 8/16 turned top two gets donked into

If you raise and get 3bet, are you folding? calling and calling any river? calling and folding a diamond river (other than Jd obv.)? What about if the river bricks and he checks? bet and call a c/r? bet and fold to one? What if he calls a turn raise and donks a harmless river?

Obviously, this is a ton of situations but my hand has little chance to improve. I don't know how much action worse two pairs will give on this board nor do I have a good feel for how far people will go with sets and small flushes.
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:47 PM
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If you raise and get 3bet, are you folding? calling and calling any river? calling and folding a diamond river (other than Jd obv.)? What about if the river bricks and he checks? bet and call a c/r? bet and fold to one? What if he calls a turn raise and donks a harmless river?


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No, yes, no, bet, yes, no, raise [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:54 PM
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If you raise and get 3bet, are you folding? calling and calling any river? calling and folding a diamond river (other than Jd obv.)? What about if the river bricks and he checks? bet and call a c/r? bet and fold to one? What if he calls a turn raise and donks a harmless river?


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No, yes, no, bet, yes, no, raise [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Haha; my answers were almost exactly that (my ingame in-my-head plan anyway) but I'm not confident on any of them. In the hand in question, he 3bet the turn, I called, he bet the brick river and I called. He had the nuts of course and I felt dumb for putting in 4BB close to dead.


I hate to make a new thread for this so I'll just hijack my own.... is it proper to always bet the flop if you put in the last raise preflop? Almost everybody at 10/20 and 8/16 on FT bets the flop 100% of the time when putting in the last raise preflop (even multiway with nothing). I'm only betting about 80-85% of the time in that spot.
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