AA gets screwed by turn - but rivers top set.

matrix · #1 11-09-2007, 12:58 PM

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $24.77
UTG: $101.89
Hero (MP): $55.78
CO: $38.91
BTN: $50
SB: $47.25

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2, UTG folds

Flop: ($5.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($16.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($16.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero ?

can this board get any worse?

call and pay the man? or can I raise this at all on teh river for value [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Villain is a 40/7/2 lagtard.

wingchunflush · #2 11-09-2007, 01:00 PM

lol @ $3 into a $16 pot. I call but I am not happy about it

Baintz · #3 11-09-2007, 01:07 PM

I like a minraise on the river here, plenty of 2 pair or lower sets may be blocking this river and look you up and we easily fold to a 3bet.

Unless of course he is laggy enough to bluff raise the river, but I don't see him doing that on this board unless he is an utter maniac.

bravos1 · #4 11-09-2007, 01:22 PM

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I like a minraise on the river here, plenty of 2 pair or lower sets may be blocking this river and look you up and we easily fold to a 3bet.

Unless of course he is laggy enough to bluff raise the river, but I don't see him doing that on this board unless he is an utter maniac.

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I really don't like opening the betting again for BB. There are gonna be hands that he will be able to throw away, as well has him jamming.

His small bet could be a block, but it could be a poor attempt at value since hero checked behind turn and he's hoping you call w/ a big Ace.

Speedlimits · #5 11-09-2007, 01:18 PM

bet turn
call river

wingchunflush · #6 11-09-2007, 01:29 PM

I think min raising is a pretty bad idea. There is a 4 straight out there, i think calling is the better action

joseki · #7 11-09-2007, 01:31 PM

I'd call. I could see an argument for betting the A, since your line looks like AK and there's not that much left behind, but i think you lose more than 50% of the time you get called. I suppose he could also fold 56s or something, but that doesn't help enough.

I also like the turn check. You're not ahead of his calling range and you're only folding worse. Plus, you could suck out on his set/2pr.

Speedlimits · #8 11-09-2007, 01:33 PM

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I'd call. I could see an argument for betting the A, since your line looks like AK and there's not that much left behind, but i think you lose more than 50% of the time you get called. I suppose he could also fold 56s or something, but that doesn't help enough.

I also like the turn check. You're not ahead of his calling range and you're only folding worse. Plus, you could suck out on his set/2pr.

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not really true

joseki · #9 11-09-2007, 01:45 PM

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I also like the turn check. You're not ahead of his calling range and you're only folding worse. Plus, you could suck out on his set/2pr.

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not really true

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Enlighten me.

Given the previous action, a typical calling range on that board: 2pr, T's, 5's, sets, occasionally JJ-QQ, rarely KK, ??

Better hands that fold: maybe 2pr, diamonds+pair (not better, but would be good to bet against), ??

ama0330 · #10 11-09-2007, 01:46 PM

Call river and nh