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crossposted with high stakes...
30-60 during evening session... i have tight image at this point, sb is tag, mp+1 is lag... mp opens, mp +1 call, I 3-bet AKs in hj , sb/bb/mp/mp+1 all call flop: KT3 rainbow, checked to me, bet, sb raises, bb/mp fold, mp+1 calls 2 cold, i call... turn: 2, (still rainbow), sb bets, mp+1 tries to get a read off of me then finally calls, i raise, sb 3-bets, mp+1 angrily mucks, i call river: A, sb verbally checks and says 'go ahead and bet now that you got there' - i start to tank - he says 'oh man, look at this guy hollywood, just bet we all know you are going to'... -typically this is an easy bet, except for the strange speech, how many bet/call, bet/fold, bet/3-bet, check...? (debate on flop/turn fine also thanks) |
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I'm leaning towards that being a pretty big tell. Sb is a tag, I'm seeing QJ,TT,33, and sometimes KTs. I really think he knows exactly what you have. I think you're about to get check raised.
Just adding via an edit that he knows you don't have AA or KK because of how you played the previous streets. I think he puts you squarely on AK. So bet/fold seems ok, and sometimes I'm ok with just checking behind. Just because the only hand he calls with that you beat imho is KT. |
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Just because the only hand he calls with that you beat imho is KT. [/ QUOTE ] Do people really call 2 and half cold with kt in the cp 30/60 game? If so mabey it's softer than I thought. |
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ya I was mostly talking about KTs (I think I mentioned the suited part in the first instance), and you're right, it doesn't seem like a very likely holding at all given the action preflop. I think checking behind is probably a must.
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clover, its 2/3 blind structure so you see a lot of hands from the sb and bb if initial raiser doesnt 4-bet frequently...
rafiki why do you think AA/KK are not in my range here - its not plain vanilla, but against thinking players this line is not uncommon imo - open to opinion/discussion |
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op KK is not in your range because of your turn play I think. AA definitely is, this is like always AA.
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op KK is not in your range because of your turn play I think. AA definitely is, this is like always AA. [/ QUOTE ] jba i agree that KK is significantly discounted from opponents perspective, but its not unheard of for players to flat call pushback on the turn and blow up on the river instead |
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clover, its 2/3 blind structure so you see a lot of hands from the sb and bb if initial raiser doesnt 4-bet frequently... rafiki why do you think AA/KK are not in my range here - its not plain vanilla, but against thinking players this line is not uncommon imo - open to opinion/discussion [/ QUOTE ] If you had AA/KK, and called the flop only to then not cap the turn, you're using a 5th level Jedi line I'm certainly not familiar with. I mean I could honestly say I've never seen that line, and with that in mind it's safe to assume the villain never has either. |
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rafiki,
capping the turn with one pair in this spot is spewing like crazy. you are a huge dog after he three bets. |
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even in a 2/3 blind struckture I can't imagine a good player would call 3 bets with k10s. Also I dont think he is putting you on kk because you haven't capped either of the previous two street. He might have you on AA but he's calling a bet with his set of tens so I think checking is the right play
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