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I fold trips on the river
Villain is a TAG from what I've observed in 15 minutes at the table and hasn't gotten very out of line.
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (5.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 11.25 BB |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
I usually just call preflop.
As played, donk call the river. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
Well, you were probably beat.
I'm not sure about the river checkraise. I mean, if Villain has an ace it's probably better than yours, and if he doesn't, then, well, you're counting on him to value bet a likely underpair and then call a checkraise with it. And I suppose that might be what he'll do if he has exactly KK, but I think there's a good chance JJ and TT are going to check behind. And, actually, it's possible KK will as well. So I prefer a river bet-call. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
You can't fold on the river. Remember a bad call only costs one bet while a bad fold costs you an entire pot.
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Re: I fold trips on the river
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You can't fold on the river. Remember a bad call only costs one bet while a bad fold costs you an entire pot. [/ QUOTE ] Lol |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
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You can't fold on the river. Remember a bad call only costs one bet while a bad fold costs you an entire pot. [/ QUOTE ] this is such terrible advice. maybe not for this hand, but in general. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
I join the c/c, c/c, b/c postflop line group.
Looks like you're wa/wb here. No need to push KK, JJ, TT, KQ out of the pot if he's willing to bet them for you. Donk on the river to avoid giving a free card. River c/r - fold doesn't make much sense like it's been mentioned here. I don't mind a 3bet preflop from BB vs a HJ TAG openraise. Thin probably, but still ok. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
On the river you have about 45-55% equity vs a reasonable MP bet/capping range. You don't want to give a free showdown but you'd prefer to get only 1 bet in there since 2 bets usually means you're beat. Getting 3bet is a major disaster though because you put in 2 bets and don't even get to see a showdown (there's a slim chance he has AJs).
Just c/c, c/c, b/c. Edit: I've been thinking this might even be a c/c on the river. If our equity never manages to reach even 60%, then a bet loses money for us given that he'll instaraise any hand that beats us. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
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[ QUOTE ] You can't fold on the river. Remember a bad call only costs one bet while a bad fold costs you an entire pot. [/ QUOTE ] this is such terrible advice. maybe not for this hand, but in general. [/ QUOTE ] Actually it's great advice offered by both Stoxtrader and Sklanksy, there is a simple mathematical approach to this concept though and it's determining what perecent of the time you are certainly beaten over the odds the pot is offereing. In this case you'd have to be close to 92% sure you are beat given the size of the pot to lay this down for one bet, which I don't think you can be. It certainly looks like you are beat here but you only have to win this situation less than one time in 10 to come out ahead. I know you said that this advice isnt terrible for this hand, but only in general. I agree it's better to save bets when you know you are beat but donating one bet when losing is a much much less costly error than folding the best hand for a medium or large pot. |
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Re: I fold trips on the river
You actually beat nothing, but I can never fold here because I'm a showdown monkey.
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