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Old 09-03-2006, 04:47 AM
judgesmails judgesmails is offline
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$2/5 NL at Red Rock Friday night.

Folded around to button, who limps. SB raises to $15, BB calls, button calls.

Flop K84 rainbow.

Checks around.

Turn 8. SB bets 40, BB folds, Button raises another 40. Pot $125.

River 10 (no possible flush). SB bets 70, Button raises to 200 (has antoher 350 behind). SB raises all-in and covers.

Button is not sure what to do. He thinks for about 2 minutes. None of the players speak up and ask for the clock. It does not seem like it is really out of line to take this time on occasion in a big pot.

The dealer decides to warn the player that he needs to decide soon, or HE will call the clock on him. Player apologizes and says it is a tough decision and acknowledges that he will need to decide soon.

15-20 seconds later the dealer calls the floor over and asks him to put the player on the clock. The floor tells the player he has 1 minute. When he starts counting down the last ten seconds the player, appearing to feel pressured, calls.

He picks of a bluff and wins a big pot. The player who made the bluff was very upset the DEALER called time and may have influenced action and the outcome of the hand.

I have never seen a dealer call time on a player when none of the players ask for it. Is this acceptable practice? All of us at the table felt it was way out of line.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:11 AM
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what the [censored]?

the second the hand is over, i'm asking the floor for the dealer to be fired.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Dealer calls time on player

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the second the hand is over, i'm asking the floor for the dealer to be fired.

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The floor is the a-hole that let the dealer call the clock in the first place.
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:26 AM
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When the dealer called the floor over, he told the floor "we need a clock on this player" and pointed to the button.

The floor did not know, until after the hand was over, that the dealer called the clock. I talked about with a couple other players later, and none of us felt we should say anything that might influence the action. Many of us were uncomfortable with the action as it was unfolding.

The player who bluffed, and lost a big pot, said he did not want to say anything - fearing he might give away his hand. I can't fault the floor here. He did not know who called the clock. I suppose you could say he should of asked?
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:06 PM
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The dealer deserves an ass kicking. stupid !@#$%^
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Old 09-03-2006, 12:28 PM
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I trust that no one tipped for the rest of that down.
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Old 09-03-2006, 01:08 PM
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Haha. Which dealer? I've played with them all.
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Old 09-03-2006, 04:20 PM
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His name was Andrew. Asian guy with a really loud and deep voice.
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Old 09-03-2006, 05:08 PM
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damn who is that in the avatar?

The dealer should keep the game going, but this is unreasonable. He/she should just deal the cards and keep their mouths shut
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Old 09-03-2006, 06:54 PM
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Two minutes before the dealer spoke up with a warning? Then he gave the player even more time before deciding that this game had been stopped long enough?

How can anyone think the dealer is out of line here? What's he supposed to do, wait 30 minutes before saying something?

This isn't a $250,000 decision we're talking about here. Crap, or get off the pot.

Seriously, if 2½ minutes isn't enough time for the dealer to take matters into his own hands, how long SHOULD he wait? His entire down?

EDIT: One more thing to consider: Someone here says this is an excellent dealer. We need to remember that this dealer is in this room every day. He may have seen that this player has a history of going into the tank for way too long, way too often. I don't know that's the case, but it's certainly possible.
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