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$100 NL QQ r/r PF
Villain is 40/14/3 over 150 hands. Haven't seen much from him since I sat down though.
If the flop isn't all spades or I have one do I flat call flop? Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter Hero (UTG): $116.70 BTN: $100 SB: $162.30 BB: $57.60 Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG) <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $16</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $11 Flop: ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $25</font>, Hero...? Thanks, ChipsAhoya |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
shove, get called by 88-JJ, any AsX or KsX
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
Few things
- I don't really like 5BB as a standard open here, but I guess it's not a huge thing. Is this normal for you? - Has there been a lot of 3betting at this table? If I had an active image and there had been some 3betting going on, I would be inclined to 4bet this preflop. A call in position without a lot of history seems fine, though. - If I had QhQs or the flop wasn't all spades I'd be inclined to shove over his flop lead 4-handed. His stats look pretty aggro/donkish, etc. As played, this is tricky. A lot would depend on reads (has he been general laggro or passive, will he fire multiple barrels, does he only 3bet the nuts pre, etc.). I would probably call her and re-eval on the turn. Obv if the board 4 flushes and he leads we're folding. If an over falls and he leads I'm probably folding. If the turn bricks out I'm probably all in. |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
fishsticks-
flatcalling this flop is terrible |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
[ QUOTE ] I would probably call her and re-eval on the turn. Obv if the board 4 flushes and he leads we're folding. If an over falls and he leads I'm probably folding. If the turn bricks out I'm probably all in. [/ QUOTE ] if we flat the flop planning to fold the turn were giving up a huge amount of equity, way too often. vs this guy we have the nuts. |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
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fishsticks- flatcalling this flop is terrible [/ QUOTE ] Whyfor? Given he's 40/14 I think his 3betting range is semi smallsh since he flat calls so often. He's a bad player and will define his hand for us. He can't/won't really bluff if a spade or over falls on the turn. If he has something like AsKh we're a slight dog now, but he'll still get it all in on a bricked turn with us when we're a big favorite. |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
except hes going broke with any overpair and probably any decent spade combo, letting more cards come scares his overpairs and lets him hit his overvalued combo draw for a cheaper price
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
I'm not sure he stacks off with any overpair, two red nines might fold to a raise here but might put in some more money on a brick turn. I think he'll still pay on the turn for those same combo draws, except at a worse price with less equity. I'm also assuming he's not going to range merge or anything wild and will just play face up.
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
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except hes going broke with any overpair and probably any decent spade combo, letting more cards come scares his overpairs and lets him hit his overvalued combo draw for a cheaper price [/ QUOTE ] i think his range of hands which call a shove is weighed more towards hands that beat us/are a coinflip for a couple of reasons: 1)much less likely to be 3betting 8s (almost never), nines, tens and even jacks (lots of ppl at 100nl on FT cold call with jacks) pf than he is ak, queens, kings and aces. 2)i think its very possible that nines, tens and even jacks with no spades get away from this flop if we shove whereas if the turn blanks they will likely commit themselves oop. 3) we give villain another chance to bluff the turn if he is in fact bluffing (our hand prob seems pretty weak given a flat call on such a scary board). 4) we get away from ak/aq with 1 spade for much cheaper than if we had shoved if the turn comes a spade (which i dont think many ppl at this limit would bluff at). So, although there r some bad cards that can come - spades, ace or king, the fact that we r never making ak/aq with a spade fold that flop and that ak with no spade only has 6 outs and aq with no spade 3 outs, makes me like cold calling and getting it in on a blank turn or trying to check down a scary turn which i doubt he bluffs on too often. |
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Re: $100 NL QQ r/r PF
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fishsticks- flatcalling this flop is terrible [/ QUOTE ] This post is worst |
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