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Old 08-14-2007, 07:21 AM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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Default NL2/4. like my line?

villain is 17/14/3.4 over a decent sample size. no history, we havent tangled. im not totally sure what my image is, but the numbers say 22/14 over 91 hands on the table. I was using the OMGlindsaylohan account, so he might recognise the name


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $305.50
BB: $391.20
Hero (UTG): $620.65
CO: $400.00
BTN: $802.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, CO calls $16.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($38) (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $27.00</font>, Hero calls $27.00

Turn: ($92) (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($92) (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $199.00</font>, Hero calls $139.00


some thoughts that came to mind

1. Is the turn an autocheck? what would be the reasons to bet again?
2. River is a clear valuebet, but what range can he have for a raise?
3. because of his raising range in 2, whats your calling range?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

Is your opponent tricky?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

55 , AJ , Bluff (77-TT , QT , XX)
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

looks pretty good to me. though i'd probably bet smaller on the river, i think inducing a bluffraise and having a better chance at thin value (with a smaller-than-normal bet) is more equitable than a normal-sized valuebet that might stratify his range in a manner that we don't want.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:38 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

His line looks like [censored] and the only hands strong enough to take it will most often bet the turn. I don't mind paying this off, if villain has KQ/KT I like his line.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

i usually lead flop, but flop check isnt bad.

id fold here tho small chance he is bluffing with q-10, but ususaly he has got a kinger or better
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:41 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

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i usually lead flop, but flop check isnt bad.

id fold here tho small chance he is bluffing with q-10, but ususaly he has got a kinger or better

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I'm not sure why QT would the only hand he could bluff here, he hasn't called any bet postflop so his bluffing range is much wider than that.

Edit: Btw, ime between tags with no history his extra price bet size is thinking on the 2nd level, ie I want him to think I want him to call.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

i'd bet $45ish on the river and call if he is tricky
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

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Is your opponent tricky?

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no idea. only have the numbers to work with. infer from that what u will/can
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:15 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: NL2/4. like my line?

Like I said on MSN, i think that the river bet has little to no value vs worse hands (except maybe JT), except for inducing a bluff (which is a good thing if we call, as we should). As a result, I think that c/c the river might be better, as we have no idea if he's tricky enough to bluff raise the river, while we know that a lot of villains will happily bluff the riuver.

Reason for this is that if you check the river, your range is pretty wide. If you lead the river, your range is almost entirely jacks (and the odd time a boat/king)
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