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History: A round or two ago i jammed 15 BB's on the CO with 77 because antes are high and the SB and BB both had big stacks and kind of liked cold calling which could be a disaster. Other than that i've been pretty tight.
Online i think this is a bit more clear, live i'm not so sure. The table actually has a lot of aware, observant, and competent players for once, so they will likely find an UTG std raise, limp, or 2.5X raise suspecious. Then again, this is live where people have no idea about shoving ranges and take all in's quite seriously, though a couple of players on the table (matt24, nordberg) had considerable online experience. 10 handed table, i am UTG with 4400 and AA. Blinds 200/400 with 50 ante. BB is Daniel Aliai, who is somewhat short. Whats our play and why? |
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Just jam it. I think you're way more likely to get loose action from LP/blind players than if you limp or raise 2.5/3x. If your opponents are solid they aren't going to be raising a limp or normal raise with AJ/77ish, but they might call your allin if they're in late enough position.
At most tables in the smaller events (1500-2500NLs) I'd be more inclined to limp here, or min raise or something like that. Many of the weak players I've encountered at the WSOP will hardly consider your stack in a situation like this and only play their hand. But most of these weak players will take an allin to mean serious business. Therefore I'd say they're more likely to give you action with AJ/77 if you don't go all in, and instead limp or make a small raise. |
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Easy shove, if you open raise to 1100 UTG you'll get less action IMO. Limping is the worst play by far, as long as your image is solid and your opponents are solid as well(which they are) you will be auto-put on AA/KK and your reverse implied odds will be terrible.
I would personally take a minute, pretend to think here, and shove. Worst case scenario: you pick up a pot equal to 1/4 your stack. |
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BTW in the actual hand i shoved, and i agree with what colson said about making a more std raise in like a 1500 event. Also, colson I hope you post more, your input is always welcome.
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Just jam it. I think you're way more likely to get loose action from LP/blind players than if you limp or raise 2.5/3x. If your opponents are solid they aren't going to be raising a limp or normal raise with AJ/77ish, but they might call your allin if they're in late enough position. At most tables in the smaller events (1500-2500NLs) I'd be more inclined to limp here, or min raise or something like that. Many of the weak players I've encountered at the WSOP will hardly consider your stack in a situation like this and only play their hand. But most of these weak players will take an allin to mean serious business. Therefore I'd say they're more likely to give you action with AJ/77 if you don't go all in, and instead limp or make a small raise. [/ QUOTE ] This is, like, a good post. |
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Raising or limping really would be sketchy to me. I think raising looks the most sketchy as some live players would limp in here with a small pocket pair hoping to set and not understanding that they are not nearly deep enough to do so. Not saying you don't understand the concept but I'm sure its popular at the WSOP.
If you shove you get called by 88+,AQ+, maybe even some stuff like KQs, AJ from a deep stack. What would you do with JJ/AK in this spot? I'd assume a shove, so thats the way to go. |
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Just jam it. I think you're way more likely to get loose action from LP/blind players than if you limp or raise 2.5/3x. If your opponents are solid they aren't going to be raising a limp or normal raise with AJ/77ish, but they might call your allin if they're in late enough position. At most tables in the smaller events (1500-2500NLs) I'd be more inclined to limp here, or min raise or something like that. Many of the weak players I've encountered at the WSOP will hardly consider your stack in a situation like this and only play their hand. But most of these weak players will take an allin to mean serious business. Therefore I'd say they're more likely to give you action with AJ/77 if you don't go all in, and instead limp or make a small raise. [/ QUOTE ] 100% agree. Question, is raise 3x with A2s - A5s in this spot a good idea? |
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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] why would that be a good idea?
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[ QUOTE ] Just jam it. I think you're way more likely to get loose action from LP/blind players than if you limp or raise 2.5/3x. If your opponents are solid they aren't going to be raising a limp or normal raise with AJ/77ish, but they might call your allin if they're in late enough position. At most tables in the smaller events (1500-2500NLs) I'd be more inclined to limp here, or min raise or something like that. Many of the weak players I've encountered at the WSOP will hardly consider your stack in a situation like this and only play their hand. But most of these weak players will take an allin to mean serious business. Therefore I'd say they're more likely to give you action with AJ/77 if you don't go all in, and instead limp or make a small raise. [/ QUOTE ] 100% agree. Question, is raise 3x with A2s - A5s in this spot a good idea? [/ QUOTE ] Not really. If someone comes over the top you have 10 BBs left. Call 7 BB to win 21ish. You will be forced to call the all-in. You could gamble and it might work if you have a really solid image. |
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If you are not going to push, I would miniraise to 800-1000. You could reasonably make the same play with a hand too weak to open push from early position, leaving room to fold to a reraise. This should look less suspicious than a standard raise or limp. At this table, the open push may be better.
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