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FUH KIN WIERD
Been a while since I posted something so I thought I would post a moderately standard hand that kind of angered me today. Villian is 19/16 surely somewhat thinking but has done some kind of weird things in the past. First hand I'm posting is one that we played just like 3 minutes before this one. FWIW I think he's fairly standard, if I had to define it as something, though maybe not necessarily by 2+2 standards. Anyways, he's not really spewy, to tbh I dont' know if this previous hand makes him more or less likely to bluff the river.
FWIW, if he bet less than 300, I was CRAI. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($1285.75) UTG ($765.30) MP ($897) ae [censored] jones ($1301) SB ($1000) Preflop: ae [censored] jones is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones raises to $30</font>, SB calls $25, BB calls $20. Flop: ($90) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $180</font>, BB folds, ae [censored] jones calls $120. Turn: ($450) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones raises to $1091</font>, SB calls $440 (All-In). River: ($2331) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $2331 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> ae [censored] jones has Qc Tc (two pair, queens and tens). SB has Ah Jd (one pair, jacks). Outcome: ae [censored] jones wins $2331. </font> And now this is what I'm kind of wondering about. I know all the standard answers, but comments on whatever streets you want are okay. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB ($1000) UTG ($987) ae [censored] jones ($1448) CO ($1286.80) Button ($1212) SB ($693.85) Preflop: ae [censored] jones is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">ae [censored] jones bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $160</font>, ae [censored] jones calls $120. Turn: ($395) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> ae [censored] jones checks, Button checks. River: ($395) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> ae [censored] jones checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $330</font>, |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
im having a hard time putting him on a hand and his line doesn't make sense so call cuz its more fun and we get to see what he has ldo
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
c/r all in
but if you're asking whether you should call or fold, i dunno, flip a coin. most people will have air a lot here with his size bet but the AJ hand before makes me think he value bets thinly. there is a huge difference though between value betting thinly on turn (when there are draws to protect LDO!) and doing so on the river with AA or KQ on a monotone board, so i'd be inclined to call and then take a note of what you saw. |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
wtff what raises flop that doesnt bet turn and zomg you even have the Ac
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
I like how you played it, and now I think you should look him up
if you lost i wouldn't be shocked to see 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2x, or 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4x but i feel like you'll see a goofy bluff here enough also, if he isn't bluffing here then i wouldn't call in similar spots in the future |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
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but i feel like you'll see a goofy bluff here enough [/ QUOTE ] ding! |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
Guys, here's the thing. I was wrong in thinking about the hand. I mean, I think it's just a "what level do you put him on question."
I picked the wrong level. The line, to all sane players, looks like a bluff. It would be atrocious for him to check the turn with anything legit, since I will frequently CRAI on the turn with bluffs and mediocre made hands. I assumed he knew that. After the knowledge of hand 1, I assumed that he was capable of raising top pair hands frequently. I think he'd play KQ like this, and that's it. FWIW, I would snap call if I had any ace but the ace of clubs. I think his line is horrible, and I was going to immediately CRAI on ANY river bet size EXCEPT 330. Honestly, against this particular player, I was going to CRAI with 300 or less, CC 350 or more, so nh to him, picking the amount to bluff that I thought he would pick to value bet. Again, just a leveling thing. It more goes along the lines of "No good player would bluff with this line- jesus christ I hope he knows that." Whoops. |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
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FWIW, I would snap call if I had any ace but the ace of clubs. I think his line is horrible, and I was going to immediately CRAI on ANY river bet size EXCEPT 330. Honestly, against this particular player, I was going to CRAI with 300 or less, CC 350 or more, so nh to him, picking the amount to bluff that I thought he would pick to value bet. Again, just a leveling thing. [/ QUOTE ] Aaron, you are ae mother [censored] jones. |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
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[ QUOTE ] FWIW, I would snap call if I had any ace but the ace of clubs. I think his line is horrible, and I was going to immediately CRAI on ANY river bet size EXCEPT 330. Honestly, against this particular player, I was going to CRAI with 300 or less, CC 350 or more, so nh to him, picking the amount to bluff that I thought he would pick to value bet. Again, just a leveling thing. [/ QUOTE ] Aaron, you are ae mother [censored] jones. [/ QUOTE ] I guess everyone but God is wrong once in a while. Sigh. |
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Re: FUH KIN WIERD
I call in hand 2, probably fold the flop in hand 1
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