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Old 09-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Gospy Gospy is offline
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Default 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $8.05
BB: $9.70
UTG: $10.00
CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $12.80

CO posts $0.10
Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.35</font>, Hero calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $0.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, CO calls $0.85

Turn: ($3.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00

River: ($7.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $6.45</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $6.45 returned to CO

Pot Size: $7.25 ($0.70 Rake)

Pretty much just sat down. I had 6 hands with this guy, so no reads. River is an easy fold to me. I was just reviewing my session and I have absolutely no clue what this guy has given his weak flop bet. So, what does he have here and what could I do to play this hand differently?
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:57 PM
bsball8806 bsball8806 is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

i see him having QQ+ or a set. Don't really like the flop raise, and I think we should fold turn
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

Fold pre-flop w/ out a read for me. As played, call flop, maybe turn depending on bet size. fold on river if he 3 barrels, again with no read.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:09 PM
Gospy Gospy is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

Yea, I hear you about the fold and not raising flop, but this is me trying to loosen up my pf calling range, but I guess I shouldn't do that with KJ cause I'm crushed by AK or AJ. Basically it's part of me not wanting to be so tight and try to better play marginal situations. Ok though, thanks guys, point noted.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:46 PM
AFCBeer AFCBeer is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

If you want to be less tight, raise more pots and don't call. If you are going to call a hand preflop in position do it with 86s or something that isn't going to be dominated.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:23 PM
Danimal 3000 Danimal 3000 is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

Fold river, I put him on overpairs.

PF on the button you can call a CO raise with KJs no sweat.

I like the flop raise to A) snap off cbets that may suck out B)define his hand if he has something
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

preflop is gross

if you raise the flop and call the turn you cant really fold the river, which is why the first two are bad.

call the flop and go from there.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:22 PM
Froobert Froobert is offline
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Default Re: 10NL - KJs - What does this guy have?

I have to disagree with all these comments about just calling the flop. If you call the flop you gain no information about where you stand, what are you going to do when he leads out the turn for 2/3 of the pot? You can’t really fold because a lot of villains will make this play with 88-TT, so I prefer to raise the flop and find out where I stand so that I can make an easier decision later. If he has 88-TT he will often call the flop reraise then check-call the turn and the river. If he has you beaten with AJ or QQ+, he will reraise the flop or make a big lead on the turn as in this hand, in which cases you can confidently throw away your KJ before the pot gets too big.

It’s fair enough to just call the flop if you think you know your opponent well enough to fold in later streets, but since there’s no info on this villain you really have to find out where you are – you don’t know if he’s the kind of person who will valuebet A6 here or if he’s a TAG who hasn’t played a hand for 5 rotations.
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