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Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
There has been alot of speculation on how the legislation will impact the number of players on each site/network... Time to start reviewing the facts...
Raw data sourced from PokerSiteScout , with permission. Data represents the 24 hour peak Active Real Money Ring Game seats, at each site/network. As discussed in the Party Lockdown thread, it may take a while for any player shift to show up in the stats. |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
it looks good for online poker , only a small dip (mostly from party)...its not looking good for party tho ...
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
There's a slight problem with your comparison, in that you're comparing a Friday to other weekdays. Weekends (Friday-Sunday) have lower peaks than weekdays.
Here's what I posted in another thread. [ QUOTE ] Total peak players for the last 5 Fridays: Date -- Players 9/8 -- 60254 9/15 -- 59293 9/22 -- 59514 9/29 -- 60250 (Fristy Friday, the bill is passed) 10/6 -- 54594 10/13 -- 52313 We're only down about 13% from pre-ban levels, but there's a lot more realignment to come. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
Scout,
Regarding those Friday figures, yesterday included 10 hours or so from midnight to 10a of US players playing on party didn't it? So next Friday's figure would seem to be the best barometer yet of the numbers for both party and overall wouldn't it? Also since party has taken the step of only allowing 6 tables per player now to curtail all the canadians and euros who played more, there should be a further drop in table & player figures it would seem come next Friday. Also I would like to ask you whether your policy is to only include a new site in your tracking by their request or not. I was wondering if some smaller sites just didn't want it known how small they were and purposefully avoid trying to have comparisons made? BTW, great site you've got and keep up the good work. |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
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Regarding those Friday figures, yesterday included 10 hours or so from midnight to 10a of US players playing on party didn't it? [/ QUOTE ] Hi Bluff, Scout's days are based on a west coast day... so technically 3a-10a ET were included... however, the Party 24h peak was hit at 2:03pm PT... so it is solid. |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
Yeah yesterday is a bad example. Use today's data with past Saturdays for something more accurate -- then again in about a week to see where most of the fishies have settled in at.
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
[ QUOTE ]
Regarding those Friday figures, yesterday included 10 hours or so from midnight to 10a of US players playing on party didn't it? So next Friday's figure would seem to be the best barometer yet of the numbers for both party and overall wouldn't it? [/ QUOTE ] As Sniper noted, the peak data from Friday is solid because Party was up and running well before peak Euro time. A better barometer would be a 7-day average taken about 10-14 days from now, after people have had a chance to react and hopefully find new sites to play at. Compare that to a 7-day average from September and you'd have a good idea of the change in the overall size of the market. [ QUOTE ] Also I would like to ask you whether your policy is to only include a new site in your tracking by their request or not. I was wondering if some smaller sites just didn't want it known how small they were and purposefully avoid trying to have comparisons made? [/ QUOTE ] No site has ever objected to our coverage, at least not to us. Some have actually approached us asking to be added. We'll usually make a deal with the smaller sites to get them on the list. [ QUOTE ] BTW, great site you've got and keep up the good work. [/ QUOTE ] TYVM. There are many more things we'd like to do with the site, so it will continue to improve over time. |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
Thanks scout... I'm aware that there is a day of week bias, which is why I plan to update this thread for a while, and why I put in the Sept max 24h peaks for comparison/baseline.
However, at the moment, the impact (both positive and negative) on individual poker sites is clearly not as great, as many predicted... we will see how this plays out in the days/weeks ahead... As you said... "there's alot more realignment to come"... |
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
a daily updated graph with a moving 7-day average might be the the easiest...
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Re: Official Poker Site/Network Tracking thread
I would give it at least a few weeks before trying to gauge the effect on sites that didn't close to the US, between cashouts/transfers, people getting accustomed to new software, and people who didn't know at first that other sites were staying open.
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