Who is more out of line? Am I out of line at all?

[dtf13]

Playing 3-5 NL Live in Lake Tahoe. There is a pot of about $500 (2 players) on Board of J 10 9 3 8, no flushes. River action is Check - Check.

Player 1 turns over J 10 (2 pair), Player 2 turns over Q 10(straight) he did not see. The dealer also does not see the straight and precedes to muck Player 2's cards. Right before the winning hand gets mucked, another player at the table verbally points out the straight, and I verbally agree.

Once player 2 is pushed the pot, Player 1 starts yelling at me, saying that I am an amateur and everyone at the table is an amateur. All I say is “Sorry, Pro” and address him as “Pro” twice more.

About 30 min. later I get involved in a fairly large pot. heads-up with an unanimous player, I bet $700 on river into a pot of $1,100. Right after I make my bet, Player 2 who is not in the hand says “Call Him! He was on a flush draw.” because he was still mad about the pot he lost.

This seemed extremely out of line to me… Ruling??

[KurtSF]

(1) Cards speak. Its OK to correct the dealer error here.

(2) Calling him pro was probably a dickish move. Saying any more than "Card's speak," and "Dealer, please call the floor," is probably inadvisable.

(3) One player to a hand. The pro was out of line chiming in.

How'd I do?

[PantsOnFire]

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(1) Cards speak. Its OK to correct the dealer error here.

(2) Calling him pro was probably a dickish move. Saying any more than "Card's speak," and "Dealer, please call the floor," is probably inadvisable.

(3) One player to a hand. The pro was out of line chiming in.

How'd I do?

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100%.

[AngusThermopyle]

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This seemed extremely out of line to me… Ruling??


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You are allowed to throw the first two punches.

Seriously, what ruling are you looking for? Finish the hand, call the Floor, and demand that Mr Jerk be told to shut up (during the hand) or be 86'd.

P.S. You were right to point out the winning hand.

[dtf13]

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This seemed extremely out of line to me… Ruling??


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You are allowed to throw the first two punches.

Seriously, what ruling are you looking for? Finish the hand, call the Floor, and demand that Mr Jerk be told to shut up (during the hand) or be 86'd.

P.S. You were right to point out the winning hand.

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Ruling I am looking for is: Player gets warning. If he does it again, he gets booted

[Sir Folds A Lot]

You were not out of line n my opinion, but player 1 was twice. Question, did you win the hand?

[SellingtheDrama]

I tend to agree with the above rulings - you should point out that a tabled hand is winner if dealer misreads board. Cards speak, even if the player can't read em.

And this is yet another reason I don't go out of my way to piss off people at my table. I'm sure you had fun calling him Pro, but its just not worth it.

[KurtSF]

Does this get posted if he did win it?

[LiveInPeace]

Players generally avoid pointing out winning hands. I've heard reasonable arguments for both policies.

[dtf13]

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Does this get posted if he did win it?

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I won the hand. Player folded. I actually had the second nut.