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Old 10-18-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default $16 late game stop n\' go

Holla, how is this?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2935)
Button (t5500)
SB (t2885)
Hero (t2180)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t400

Flop: (t1300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t1580 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

I think the stopngo is unnecessary, because that's actually a good flop for you. Unless you have a specific read that he never cbets, go for a checkraise.

The only hands that will fold to this stopngo are the hands that would otherwise cbet and give you more value.

Not too bad a play overall though, as I'd be snap-calling your stopngo with AK on this flop.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

CR has no FE though. I'm not sure I like checking, him betting like 800, I cr for another 800 and he has to call w/ 2 overs (giving him correct odds to draw)... I think I'd rather just take it down on the flop w/ a lead out shove. I think almost any A hi will call my flop shove anyways.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

i wouldnt suggest playing it any diff

sappose you could jsut shove pf but wouldnt recommend it
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

I am a nit. If the button hasn't been aggressive I fold this PF.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

Reads? Readless this is a fold PF for me. It's a bit of FPS with more than 10bb on the bubble, I think.
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default FE should exist

You speak of a CR making a call correct with 6 outs but you also have 6 outs that beat his 6 outs so a call by him is still wrong.
In round numbers tho, assuming a cbet of 800, the pot would be 2100 after his bet and 3700 after your push. That means he is getting slightly more than 4 1/2 to 1 to call with 6 outs. He needs way more than that to make calling correct. He may feel committed and will make a knee jerk call but that is wrong. FE exists!
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:25 PM
JOHANSON YO JOHANSON YO is offline
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Default Re: FE should exist

fold&gt;push&gt;call
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

i think i just fold this preflop. you are on the bubble and other two short stacks are fairly close to you.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: $16 late game stop n\' go

Fold. Too deep to SnG and not really good enough to reshove unless you have a good read.
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