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Old 07-19-2007, 02:35 AM
theblitz theblitz is offline
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Default Our Israeli Government prove themselves to be idiots once again

For those who don't know the background:
A couple of days ago Israel released 178 terrorists as long as they "promised not to do it again". [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
They then had a show of them being "disarmed" by the Palestinian government.

This is what the guys released had to say about it:

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"It's all a joke. It's just a joke." That's how the Palestinian terror commanders in Judea and Samaria explained the show they made of handing in their weapons to Fatah commander Mahmoud Abbas's official militias over the weekend.

"This is all a big joke," they told reporters while posing for pictures. "Abbas asked us to sign a declaration saying we won't attack Israel and so we are."
And why not? The Palestinian Authority Chairman agreed to pay them thousands of dollars in exchange for the photo opportunities.
There is also the non-financial incentive. In exchange for their propaganda photos and their signatures on declarations not to engage in terror anymore, Israel has pledged to take these murderers off of its wanted list. So just for participating in a satire, these men get to walk without fear for the first time in years.

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So, who says we Jews are smart?

I took this from a Jerusalem Post article.
See the rest here
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: Our Israeli Government prove themselves to be idiots once again

Does this have something to do with the recent palestinian power struggle? Seems like an unwise move on its own, but maybe it will help Abbas argue for a less Hamas, more reconciliational course?
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:20 AM
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Yes.
They claim it is in order to "Strengthen Abbas's situation". However, in previous cases this has not helped in any way.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:33 AM
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A gesture of goodwill is rarely stupid IMO, even if you know your opponents won't care or will misuse it or will mock you for it.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:18 AM
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What makes you think the Israeli government are idiots? I think that there is something to this and that for the first time ever the situation is right to make a peace deal w/ the Palestinians (at least those on the West Bank). There must be something major in the works. Let the process begin. I think it's worth almost any risk to finally get a peace deal, a real peace deal, done.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:48 AM
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I would agree with you if it wasn't for the previous times.

This is not the first time that terrorists have been released as "Good will gestures" and in each case they have gone back to "work".

Some terrorists have been released more than once!

Can you imagine Bush releasing a member of Al Qaida if he promised to be good?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:38 AM
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Can you imagine Bush releasing a member of Al Qaida if he promised to be good?


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I can't even imagine Bush thinking that a detainee in Guantamo might be mistakenly detained, although, obviously, some were! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

A bit like the state execution system in the USA... never makes a mistake... LOL as long as it is not your or me, right? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Bush is not a good example for your argument.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:33 AM
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I would agree with you if it wasn't for the previous times.

This is not the first time that terrorists have been released as "Good will gestures" and in each case they have gone back to "work".

Some terrorists have been released more than once!

Can you imagine Bush releasing a member of Al Qaida if he promised to be good?

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The Israelis must take every opportunity to make a peace deal, even at the risk of lives. This has gone on long enough and I'm hoping that now is the time to get a deal done. I'll place again here what posted in my thread around here somewhere: Arab League sending envoys to Israel. I attach great significance to this development. I've long thought that peace would finally be made when it was the Arabs telling the Palestinians that it was time to make peace and not the Western nations saying the same thing. IMO, Israel must take chances right now and do everything possible to strike a deal.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:37 PM
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Andy Ross,

I don't think the US should send my tax money to fund any military that participates in the repression of people based on their race. This includes Turkey as well.

Howard, the current Israeli and American planners do not seek a peace deal, only the illusion that some sort of "road map" is in the works.
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:13 PM
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Howard, the current Israeli and American planners do not seek a peace deal, only the illusion that some sort of "road map" is in the works.

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This is very cynical and I hope is merely a reflection of your disappointment with developments up until now. I can understand that. However, I have the feeling that this time you will be proven wrong. I'm very hopeful right now and would be sorely upset if I am proven wrong. We'll just have to wait and see.
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